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I'm just curious what y'all think about that aspect of your identity. What's it based on? What are its limits?

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[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not the guy you asked, but at least to me, the generality is the issue.

Right, but you get what I'm saying that I don't necessarily agree with the guy out of the gate? We kind of have to dig beyond the generalities in some capacity, if we ever want to get past just shouting the generalities at each other back and forth.

I went through college recently, and between the two universities I was at, both were overwhelmingly liberal

This, I can 100% agree with. I talked about it in my initial statement - I feel like academia is naturally pretty left-wing, and the military is naturally pretty right-wing, and neither of those is (in my opinion) something anyone has to "fix." It's just a natural product of the environment. More what I was surprised by was the other dude saying that his professors when he went to school were dominantly conservative.

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I agree that just shouting generalities back and forth doesn't accomplish anything, but I find that moving to more specific things doesn't help in that kind of conversation anyway, just changes the scope. Rather, I find that discussing the values behind the concern and the effects of the generality to be a better use of time since it doesn't just fall into nitpicking an example. I find that this thread describes it best. Any specific examples often end up being somewhat trivial and arbitrary, when the real concern is with an overall trend

I feel like academia is naturally pretty left-wing, and the military is naturally pretty right-wing, and neither of those is (in my opinion) something anyone has to “fix.”

I agree that the slant doesn't need to be "fixed" per se. My issue is largely that the slant is often either entirely ignored when it might call an academic work into question, or used as some stupid "hurr durr right wing hates being smart" type talking point.