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Lololol this fucking sub 🤦♂️
You imagine the most insane shit.
Imagine? This is real life.
Whatever you say 🤷♂️🤦♂️🤣
I guess we're simultaneously in 3% unemployment and employers are at the same time firing effective employees all day.
You’re watching in real-time as middle managers fire as much as half their staff using ridiculous “return to the office” policies (when wfh had productivity up, saved employees money, and reduced pollution) just to save their own jobs and those of their commercial real estate landlords. Employees are already being replaced with AI.
If you don’t think that bosses would just fire people and replace them with automation then you really must be the most dense motherfucker in America. Stop defining your self-worth by how hard you work, it’s just what your bosses want to turn you into a slave they can exploit while you never criticize the ever increasing problems with a system that doesn’t give a single solitary shit about you.
Lolol that's one company. Median tenure in the US is about 4 years depending on who you ask.
Do you think getting fired means you don't need a new job? Those people getting fired still have bills to pay. They're just finding new jobs.
And you think companies are firing the efficient employees from employer to employer while keeping a sub 3% rate? The median tenure in the states is about 4 years. What you are claiming just isn't mathematically possible
Then show me the failed calculation
"Efficient employee" is corpo speak for "abused and compliant worker". Of course they wouldn't fire the people that give them the most results for the least in return.
Edit: I do work 40 hours/week and it's bullshit. I don't reply to corporate shills
Blah blah. Blah blah, go walk dogs if you can't be brothered to put in a decent 40 hours.
I think all the stuff that gets to the "front page" of lemmy from this community is actually all correct but idk why anyones first reaction to this would be antiwork. You still want people to work because ai cant program well enough today. I dont really understand the antiwork movement right now, maybe in 20 years.
The anti work movement is really 2 things. You’ve got the “I want to work as little as I can” group who no matter the circumstances would do just that. Shove 10 people in a house that work part time with a big garden types. And you’ve got the “my hours and pay need to reflect increases in efficiency and decreases in amount of work I need to do”. Both unify in hating work. And both are useful to the cultural milieu, the former more like the hippies who dropped out of society and the latter like the people who demanded the 40 hour work week
Ok but that means most sane people arent antiwork but just want work reforms if im right. And it confuses like minded people(like me).
You aren’t entirely wrong but also the difference winds up in perspective. Work reform seeks to change work, usually through cooperation. You can compare it to a liberal union like the teamsters. Antiwork seeks to remove work’s status as the main focus of a significant chunk of our lives. It can be more easily compared to a radical union like the IWW. Both can probably settle on a compromise that they’re both comfortable with, but how they relate to folks like bosses and those who drop out is going to be different.
And I wouldn’t call those who minimize their labor insane but rather differently prioritized. Many are doing productive things with their time but not of the monetized or monetizable variety, just personal projects. Or they want to live like they’re retired. Or whatever. I can’t judge that urge because while it’s not how I want to live personally I do see something admirable and increasingly necessary in a lifestyle that trades ability to consume for time