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But the interaction is different. I have a simple example, would you be upset if you see some people beat up a chair? Probably not, but if you see people beat up something that moves, talks and behaves like a person or an animal you might get upset. Both are just things, but the interaction is still different. So we should teach our kids to be kind in interactions with live line things so that they behave properly when interacting with people. That's at least how I see it ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I do. Breaking something just because you're upset is counter-productive and just creates waste, so it frustrates me.
I also think being polite to an LLM is stupid and wasteful. Just be direct about what you need a response to and move on. Don't be rude (that's also counter-productive), just be direct. For example, "What's the capital of Bulgaria?" instead of, "If you could be so kind, could you look up the capital of Bulgaria for me please? Thank you!" Using a tool efficiently is a way of showing it some level of respect.
Tools are tools. Use and maintain them properly, and then move on to the next task.
I see people beat up their things all the time without getting upset
I don't really care when someone smashes the door closed of their car
or smashes their keyboard in frustration or tosses a pen that doesn't work right
Perhaps you should feel concern for that person, because they're resorting to violence to cope with their feelings of frustration. We've all done it and in my own experience, I don't think I've ever come back to my senses feeling satisfaction that I had lost control. I usually feel some shame for the destruction I caused.
Yeah, if someone can't help but destroy objects around them or punch holes in walls, I wonder how many bad days or situation escalations they are from targeting a person instead of an object. Rage isn't a pressure vessel that needs pressure to be released in the form of violence, rather your mind is something you train habits into, meaning you're training yourself to react to frustration with violence.
Not to mention it never helps anything. You mentioned the feelings of shame, but there's also more direct consequences of destroying things that happen to be in reach. There was a bash quote from someone who had to print a school paper or something and got so frustrated when they couldn't access the file that they threw their printer (or something essential to what they needed to do) out of their high storey window in frustration. They were lucky they didn't accidentally kill someone in the process, and then had a new real problem of not having equipment they needed once they realized the disc or whatever the file was on was sitting on their desk instead of inserted for reading. Or videos of kids getting gamer rage and destroying their keyboards or monitors. That will just make it harder to stop being pissed off because now they need to spend money to get back to where they just were (and were already unhappy about).
Though I do feel differently about object destruction not done in the heat of the moment. Like the printer scene from Office Space or getting enjoyment from demolishing a room before renovating it. It's a deliberate choice, which doesn't imply they might fly off the handle and do who knows what.
Now that right there is some Buddahriffic wisdom. As someone who has destroyed a keyboard in frustrated anguish, I can say the satisfaction was dismally ephemeral and every time I found a loose key for months afterward, I felt ashamed of my impulsive and violent behavior.
Although, in the exact moment in which the keyboard exploded into shrapnel, the satisfaction was intense, although I think the novelty of the situation and the personal distraction it caused were the real source of the delight. When I turned back to my sorely inadequate and poorly behaved workstation, the feelings of frustration quickly flooded back, only worse now that I needed to find a new keyboard...and waste time cleaning up the old one.