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[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (10 children)

In the meantime, I am interviewing juniors who can't write a while or for loop without looking on the internet...

The future is looking grim.

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (7 children)

As a senior programmer I can't write a for loop without the internet.
I can't remember the last time I saw a job listing that didn't expect me to be an expert in at least 5 languages. The best part is that halfway through the interview you learn that they are no longer using half the languages listed, and are "transitioning" towards 2 others that aren't even listed. You want me to whip out examples written in Fortran, C++, Rust, JS, and some random word you claim is a language in 2 hrs without the internet? Bitch, I don't even think I could get prewritten "Hello World" examples compiled in 5 different languages in 2 hrs, much less on machine that I have never seen before.

[–] Traister101 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What ramdon ass language could they possibly be pulling out of their ass for you to he completely unable to write a for loop? I've yet to see a for loop, or really any sort of loop that doesn't look pretty much exactly like the standard C style for loop

for(int x = 0; x < z; x++) {
}

If you have a C style language with iterator for loops like C++, Java and friends you almost certainly have this syntax

for(int x : numbers) {
}

Python has exclusively iterator for loops with this syntax

for x in range(z)

The only real difference is that instead of a colon : you use the in token.

At best I can see the need for a quick refresh on what the exact syntax is but if your a senior any languages you actually use should have a template for junk like this. I don't think I've manually written a loop in ages, I just type out iter for an iterator for loop or when I rarely need an index fori and the rest gets stamped out for me.

If your being tested on random languages you can simply just not be familiar with a language. I haven't touched Zig once but I'd totally be down to learn it. Everybody whos got a couple languages under their belt knows how easy it is to pick up new ones.

[–] Cargon@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Plot twist, the company app is written in a Lisp-like language.

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Dude, there are at least 4 different "for" loop syntaxes in Js/Ts alone:

for (let num = 1; num <= 5; num++) {}.

for (const num of numbers) {}.

for (const num in numbers) {}.

this.numbers].forEach(num => {});

Also don't forget ngFor and @for in html, and then the @for in sass/scss.

That's 7 different for loops and I haven't included the non-for loops, or even left Angular.

Once we include some scripting like I did just this week:

bash: for i in {1..5}: do .. done

dos: for /L %%i in (1,1,5) do ()

Then you can just stfu if I feel the need to remind myself of the exact syntax for one of the 3 or 4 different for loop options in c#.

[–] Reptorian@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In G'MIC, there's repeat(num_of_iters,_var_name,code();); on JIT code, and repeat code_block done outside of JIT. It has while, for, dowhile on JIT too. Other than repeat, there is only do while, and for which is while outside of JIT.

Note: _var_name, can be omitted. So, if you need to just repeat a code N times, that can be removed.

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