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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 21 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

wasn't the protonmail guy an unapologetic trumpster? I feel like that kind of thing should be a consideration and listed detail

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This is a link to the tweet in question.

In the spectrum of greasy things CEOs tend to say and do, this only feels like a 3 out of 10 for me. If I was doing a fresh migration today I’d choose Tuta. After 3 ESP migrations in 4 years I’d have to read a 6 or 7 greaseball on that scale to justify the switching cost.

[–] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, this is further detailed in the deep-dive guide. Not a simple case, but also decided to avoid them in the end as I switched recently.

Email guide - https://lemmy.world/post/27983387

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 8 points 19 hours ago

Not just the guy but in official proton posts as well not just personal ones.

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Yup! I dumped them and moved to selfhosted email using mailcow on a dedicated server at OVH in Canada. Moved to Mullvad for VPN.

EDIT: Wanted to add that should anyone look into self hosting email. Make sure you use an SMTP relay service for sending emails. If you try to send directly from your server IP address the emails will most likely end up in the spam folder on providers like gmail and possibly not even accepted on Microsoft. Self hosting email is easy once you have your DNS records setup correctly. Also gives you the most control over you data.

[–] darksiderbun@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

I still use it as I see it as the lesser of evils and not very evil at all (though I do have some reservations about platform expansion and vendor lock in). Give everyone a microphone and some of them are gonna have really shit takes. As long as the cryptography and mission and product are still valid then its a go for me. Lastly I will say "every company will inevitably betray you", so always be on the lookout.

[–] primemagnus@lemmy.ca 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The very reason I rarely trust lists. Too many red flags get past.

Always trust the word on the street. That’s a sure thing. Guides and all edits always bring in bias.

[–] LeadLemming@lemm.ee 4 points 16 hours ago

The word on the street doesn't come with bias?