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A Tesla influencer randomly caught his odometer double-counting mileage on video. Wild.

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 91 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

I admit I didn’t watch the video — I’ve trained YouTube’s algorithm well at this point and don’t want Tesla content — but what the fuck is a predictive odometer? The tires roll a certain distance. We’ve had odometers for like 75 years.

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You can remove YouTube videos from your watch history, so they don’t influence your algorithm.

[–] AugustWest@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Or don't use YouTube on their platform.

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

FreeTube, Grayjay, etc are better experiences by far

[–] ogeist@lemmy.world 81 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The article mentions that Tesla is kind of justifying the behavior by saying it is based on energy consumption and some other bullshit. The expectation according to SAE, which I find very interesting, is to be in a range of +/- 4% and for GPS enabled odometers+/- 2.5%, Tesla is missing the mark for at least 36%.

[–] SavageCreation@lemmy.world 77 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

So we traded a proven, reliable, physical laws based method (wheel roll) in favor of unreliable electronics. Nice.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 hours ago

Electronics can be extremely reliable, but Tesla chose to be sleezebags.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 54 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You've summed up every aspect of the Tesla. Especially now that real car companies are taking EVs seriously.

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 19 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 33 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Literally. And it sucks. There's reasons they don't do it like this anymore.

[–] SavageCreation@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Man, something I love is un-steering by simply reducing my grip against the wheel so it slowly resets to neutral, my hand's friction making sure it doesn't do so suddenly. This shit ass shape would make that impossible. It's like they hate driving.

[–] Paper_Phrog@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Now you can un-steer way faster! /S

[–] SavageCreation@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

imagine the hand smack once the other side turns in... ow

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago
[–] Michal@programming.dev 2 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

It's not really that reliable as it it will depend on the diameter of the wheels that can vary with pressure, wear, and and actual tyre size.

A better method may be a sensor like the one used in optical mice.

[–] AugustWest@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I have test all three methods. GPS is the best, but it has drop outs. You can add an inertial gyro system to compensate, but that becomes sloppy the longer it goes without GPS.

The tire method has a lot of variances, but the measure at the transmission is often worse.

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So if I replace the wheels on my car with monster truck wheels, I'll be able to cheat the odometer?

[–] AugustWest@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

Well yeah. My bicycle odemeter has settings for different size wheels.

We used to take vehicles in for calibration and then all runs had to use the same psi in the tires.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

...but what are we actually trying to measure here? The miles travelled, or the wear and tear that's caused by the wheels spinning?

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

Mileage by counting the number of rotation of the wheel.

The mileage is a measurement to give an idea of the wear, combined with other information to give a holistic view of the state of the car.

[–] SavageCreation@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Fair, and thinking about it it doesn't account for unnecessary wheelspin

[–] hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 hours ago

It absolutely does. Typically, all 4 wheel speed sensors are polled and averaged, so unless you're doing lots of extended 4 wheel burnouts, you're talking an incredibly small margin of additional error.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 16 points 21 hours ago

That makes your warranty expire faster. It's not in the users favor.

[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think that pretty much sums up the entire ethos of Silicon Valley these days.

[–] SavageCreation@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

DISRUPT THE MARKETTTTTTT

[–] 50MYT@lemmy.world 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The video shows it going like 14999 to 15001 skipping 15000.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

You'd think they would make it increment every half mile instead of doing something stupid like this.

[–] itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 22 points 21 hours ago

Yeah if you're gonna do a fraud at least put the minimum thought into it. It's disrespectful is what it is. Gives honest grifters a bad name

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

"shit i always do that i always mess up some mundane detail" ~ Tesla Engineers probably

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Except in this case they're defrauding customers instead of corporate like in Office Space... not quite as fun.