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[–] Maddison@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

people! in all seriousness, does this work. I mean, if they are doing it, it must do something at least?

[–] AssPennies@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got deployed to a spot where a company man came to help out with some logistics. We happened to be using some 50 gallon drums to help anchor down some comms equipment, which got us talking about the topic of 50 gallon drums.

The company man happened to also be a vietnam vet, and told me a story about some POWs that got captured there. The enemy was real keen on finding out how the americans were finding their ground compounds for aerial attacks.

These several POWs told the enemy that it was all of their diesel fuel 50 gallon drums that were lighting up on radar, and was giving away their position from dozens of miles away. They went on to tell the enemy that the only way to hide the drums from radar, was to bury them at least 3 feet below ground.

So there's the enemy, digging 6+ foot trenches to hide their diesel drums in. Digging trenches like that in the jungle is difficult enough, but even more difficult is then unburying them one by one when the fuel is actually needed.

So the POWs pulled that whole radar + drums story out of their ass, but knew that if they were believed, it was going to be a huge hindrance for the enemy hiding/accessing the drums like that.

So I have to wonder: Do the russians believe that throwing tires on their aircraft hides them from radar, or otherwise some other overhead asset from detecting them? It seems like it would be hindrance to scramble those jets when needing to chuck a bunch of tires off it first. Would be hilarious if some type of planted misinformation is responsible for this practice.

The question still remains though: Does this shit actually work?

[–] Maddison@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Would be hilarious if some type of planted misinformation is responsible for this practice.

interesting! Thank you!

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, the drone/artillery shell just bounces off. It even protects against Himars bee bees.

[–] Maddison@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean do they hide the bloody plane? Planes have a very noticeable outline perhaps they are trying to hide it. This way for a drone with low quality cameras, it might not look like a target immediately? And I am thinking these drones have humans sitting behind them and have bad cameras.

If the drones are programmed almost anything unexpected can put them off course. (Looking at you Million dollar russian missile hitting Ukrainian toilets)

Thinking the enemy is dumb is almost never a great plan and it certainly doesn't help you. Luckily for Ukraine, the people who think the enemy is dumb are sitting behind a computer and not inside a command post.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hmmm, what is this pile of tires on the runway? There's no way it could actually be a plane /s

Also, the quote "we're so lucky they are so stupid" is from a Ukranian soldier. There are many battlefield examples.