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If you can only consider solutions that require everyone to give up eating meat, you will never get enough people on board.
I have a solution: don't give up meat and you collapse the fucking ecosystem and then you'll give up meat because you'll be starving to death
The fact that a better alternative is becoming available, and y’all are still insisting the only possible option is giving up meat entirely, really proves that it’s not about the environment and y’all just want to force your choices on everyone else.
I’m a vegetarian, dumbass. But I understand it will be quicker to build vat grown meat facilities than convert everyone to vegetarianism. We do not have more than a generation or two before the planet becomes unlivable.
Grow up.
We don't have a generation or two left.
People can choose to give up meat now or they'll give up meat later when no one can afford it anymore. I won't need to force them to become vegetarian, the economic conditions will do it for me. I'll just be ready before everyone else.
So we’re going to rely on voluntary behavior from people and Big Ag producers. That’s a fucking abysmal plan.
There is no plan! That's my point.
Environmental collapse is going to make meat impossible for 99% of people. There won't be anything voluntary about it, people just won't be able to afford meat and so they'll stop eating it.
We could avoid this with central planning and regulations, but we won't.
So you’re alarmed, but not enough to support vat grown meat alternatives? That’s a bridge too far?
It's a waste of our limited time and resources. If it's ever viable it's just going to be a treat for rich people, it will not ever be viable as a mass meat alternative for most people.
It's right up there with cold fusion and general AI. It's not happening, not on the timescale needed to avoid catastrophic climate change.
Florida has banned it. Big Ag lobbyists are aggressively moving to get it banned in every other state.
Seems like a lot of wasted money, for something that’s not a threat. What do you know that they don’t? How about you write up your expertise, and make some money off it?
I know that we are on the brink of the end of the fucking world and every dipshit capitalist thinks they can be the last ones to squeeze the last drop of profit out of our planet before the mass dying begins. They're hedging their bets to make sure lab grown meat never happens.
Justice will come for them.
Just eat plants. Treatlerites need to grow up.
Sure. Let’s keep on with the ‘just eat plants’ messaging. Surely it’ll start working any day now.
I didn't say it would "work", I think my pessimism is pretty obvious. What I said is they're going to eat plants whether they like it or not.
Unless they're hunting the Most Dangerous Game, there won't be any meat for anyone sooner rather than later.