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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the long term maybe, but in the short term I still need to pay rent

[–] young_broccoli@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The system is designed to force you into debt and coerce you into work and it wont ever change if we keep playing by their rules.

[–] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, but having the moral high ground doesn't pay the rent, so without either outside help or organized rebelion all it will do is hurt the little guy.

As it stand now they effectively won, we waited too long, not saying it can't change but individual action is not enough

[–] young_broccoli@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...organized rebelion...

What do you think I'm advocating for here? Demanding your rightfull place as a worker is rebellion.
Sure, one dignified chump quitting will be laughed at; but one thousand? ten thousand? will make them sweat.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But 1000, 10,000 aren't doing that. This is just one person reacting to their boss and quitting on the spot. You have to organize and plan this shit out. General Strikes don't just magically "happen" when enough people are pissed off, those pissed off people have to actually coordinate with each other.

[–] young_broccoli@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

You have to organize

What do you think I'm advocating for here?

Hard to organize shit when people is arguing against spreading the idea of doing so.

[–] vardogor@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] young_broccoli@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Homelessness is manufactured, its part of that coercion I talked about, so... yes.

Theres plenty of employed people who are homeless (quick google search shows that in the US about 50% of people living in shelters and 40% living on the streets are employed). Employment does not guarantee shelter, as we've been told, so clearly playing by their rules isnt working for us. Why do we keep playing a game that is rigged against us and supported by lies is beyond me.

Obviously all this should be accompained with solidarity/mutual aid and real societies and not the individualist bullshit they try so hard to convince us is society. Governments and corporations wont help us but theres no reason we cant help each other if we wanted to.

[–] vardogor@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)