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Lemmy World is now on Matrix (matrix.to)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by lwadmin@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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We know most of you were thrilled about our Discord server, so we decided to make you even happier with our very own space on matrix!

There is an announcement room for all the latest and greatest about Lemmy World: https://matrix.to/#/#announcements:lemmy.world
A General channel where everyone is welcome to join and talk: https://matrix.to/#/#general:lemmy.world

And lastly, this one is more for admins of other instances but we have opened a "LW Defense HQ" room which we want to use in our ongoing fight against spammers: https://matrix.to/#/#defense:lemmy.world

Come join us!

EDIT: Madlad @ruud@lemmy.world was easily convinced to set up a lemmy.world matrix server. So I edited the links to the new space and rooms. The old ones still work too!

That means you can now also sign up for a Lemmy World matrix account. Instructions in this comment: https://lemmy.world/comment/3443207

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[-] dipshit@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

But open source. Not owned and operated by one company.

Discord is garbage.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

You mean you don't like having to pay for Nitro just to make your profile icon an animated .gif, a feature which costs the developers literally nothing?

...Yeah, me neither.

[-] pathief@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

I honestly think it's nice. You're paying for mostly cosmetic stuff and the core Discord experience is unaffected.

I'm not sure if they suck or have shady businesses, but I have never felt the desire to pay for Nitro. I hope they manage to get profit with such an unremarkable set of perks.

[-] Uncle_Iroh@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I pay for nitro, not because I necessarily care about the features but just because it's neet and convient. Like, I can upload to another playform and share a link, or I can just buy nitro and pay for the convience. I use discord every day so I don't really mind supporting them.

I really don't understand where al the "discord is garbage" and "fuck discord" comes from, my guess it's just federation extremists hating on every company in existence.

[-] ninchuka@lemmy.one 1 points 9 months ago

Theres valid reasons to not like discord or not being FOSS isn't one of them personally

[-] pathief@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I have also been using Discord since the start. I think people have forgotten how painful setting up groups on Skype or other alternative software was.

I might be wrong but I think some people just think all closed software is garbage, doesn't matter how good or cheap it is.

[-] Uncle_Iroh@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

That's what I'm thinking, it's really easy to use, really easy to grow communities, perfect to just set something up with friends. I think anyone that actually says discord is trash is just full of crap

[-] ninchuka@lemmy.one 2 points 9 months ago

Discord has decent UX and the voice channels are great and easy to use, it's far from garbage, just because it isn't open source and technically matrix is mainly made/maintained by one company who made it at the same time, they don't own it and there's a separate entity the matrix foundation which is non profit which owns the actual spec and all that stuff but the majority of stuff done in the spec was by element/new vector

[-] dipshit@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

just because it isn’t open source

You’re going to want to support projects that share their source with the world. Otherwise, how do you know what you’re actually using? You might want to give a read through discord’s TOS and make sure you’re comfortable with what they’re doing.

technically matrix is mainly made/maintained by one company who made it at the same time, they don't own it and there's a separate entity the matrix foundation which is non profit which owns the actual spec and all that stuff but the majority of stuff done in the spec was by element/new vector

Right. If it’s open source, the public owns it. You own it, as does New Vector and the Matrix foundation. You run the servers, or your friends do. You decide the terms and conditions. You extend the server or configure it in the way you like.

The difference here is that Discord is a black box operated by one company. Matrix is an open box operated by you or people you trust.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I have never had a single issue with discord, what gives?

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Only used Lenny for a couple months now. But there seems to be a very strong extremist undercurrent in most groups.

In this case, if it's not FOSS and 100% FREE is a trash service/application.

You learn to just tune it out after a while.

[-] ky56@aussie.zone 4 points 9 months ago

But you didn't have an issue with reddit until the rugpull, right? Same point/worry with Discord and any other centralized close source system.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I had plenty of issues with Reddit and had been actively looking for an alternative for the better part of a year prior to the rugpull.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Reddit was great... until it wasn't.

Building communities in somebody else's backyard is problematic because if your community gets popular, you're stuck there. History has shown us that for-profit social sites/apps that grow large always turn to crap when it's time for them to actually start making a significant profit. I haven't seen any reason to think that Discord has figured out a way to prevent that. Have you?

Something similar is even a risk with Lemmy because there isn't really a way to migrate a community to another server if the admins of the one you pick change the policies in a way you aren't OK with, or simply shut down the server.