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In my view, Monero is only one piece of the equation to digital freedom. You need the rest of the “encryption as identity” tech stack:

Monero is to Money, What Session is to Telegram, And Nostr is to Twitter.

Censorship on Twitter has given rise to this decentralized micro-blogging alternative that uses encryption as identity for unstoppable free speech.

I narrated this brand new animated video which goes over how Nostr works and why it matters: https://video.simplifiedprivacy.com/nostr/

Nostr is right now dominated by Bitcoin Maxis, we're organizing a Monero takeover. DM us on Nostr: npub14slk4lshtylkrqg9z0dvng09gn58h88frvnax7uga3v0h25szj4qzjt5d6

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[–] tusker@monero.town 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mastodon already replaced twitter, it has much more users than nostr, what is the point?

[–] RTRedreovic@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is variety in Alternatives a problem to you?

[–] tusker@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

not at all, just do not understand what nostr does that mastodon does not

it is like promoting zcash or epic cash, pointless

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

do not understand what nostr does that mastodon does not

It has a really nice ethos for the coding side of it and is very easy to make stuff for. The only mandatory thing to implement is extremely short, and all of the documentation is in a single github that takes contributions from basically anyone for additions. It can very plausibly be used for stuff that isn't like Twitter. Having cryptographic keys instead of accounts is a good concept, so are relays, makes it so there isn't any given server that has a lot of power over you as a user. If you're not a developer and don't care about that stuff then yeah it doesn't really have much mastodon doesn't right now but it's still cool imo.

[–] tusker@monero.town 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the info, has potential I suppose.

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

OK...

Nostr is a (mostly) use case agnostic transport protocol. It consists of relays, which only relay messages, and user clients, which only sign messages and send them to relays. Clients can send to as many relays as they like, ensuring censorship resistance, and users don't have usernames and accounts and all that, only keypairs.

Now, lots of people have built on top of it ways to "verify" with servers, the maintainer has built into the protocol special types of messages that are things like account descriptions and avatars, and most of the development is focused on microblogging. But that's not all it can do.

It's as pointless as monero is in the face of bitcoin: it isn't pointless. It's a very good idea actually. I think the protocol has become too convoluted, but it does what we need it to do. It is censorship resistant, potentially anonymous publishing on the clearnet.

[–] ShadowRebel@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for your reply. This is good stuff

[–] ShadowRebel@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The video covers why Nostr is better than Mastedon. Mastedon makes you reliant on a federated admin who can ban you. And federation relies upon DNS and IP addresses for identity, as opposed to encryption as identity.

[–] tusker@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Overkill IMO, if you join a freedom oriented instance you will be fine unless you are a real ass. You can also run your own instance.

Fedi is the way to go as everyone can talk to each other. They already bridge over in some capacity anyway.

Rather not be tied to some BTC maxi protocol, next thing you know they will limit the number of users to 100 and cap post size to 10KB.

[–] k4r4b3y@mitra.karapara.net 1 points 1 year ago

@tusker @ShadowRebel

>some BTC maxi protocol, next thing you know they will limit the number of users to 100 and cap post size to 10KB.

lol'd

[–] gunnm@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

I disagree it replaced it, people still use X.