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Fully Charged in Just 6 Minutes – Groundbreaking Technique Could Revolutionize EV Charging::Typically, it takes around 10 hours to charge an electric vehicle. Even with fast-charging techniques, you're still looking at a minimum of 30 minutes – and that's if there's an open spot at a charging station. If electric vehicles could charge as swiftly as we refill traditional gas vehicles, it wo

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[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Averages are useless. It does not matter if my car is fine most of the time, I'm not going to have a second car for when it is difficult or impossible.

Hydrogen is the other tech which makes quick refuelling possible, but there are not yet enough hydrogen refuelling stations to make them feasible for most drivers. And we don't yet know if leaks can be controlled enough to make hydrogen a net positive for consumer applications.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Averages are useless. It does not matter if my car is fine most of the time

so what, you would want to triple your battery capacity because once a year you might need it?

why not just a rent car for that one occasion?

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Where did once a year come from? I can't reach any of my family without stopping to charge most (currently affordable) EVs. We only bought a car because it was getting more expensive to rent them when needed (and train prices have doubled), we're not going to pay twice over.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

so that's what 150+ 200+ km? (and that's being generously low given something like Hyundai Ioniq 5s range)

is it unfathomable for you to take a 15 minute break during a trip like that?

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where are you getting 15 minutes from? Why do you keep inventing scenarios to make your point?

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do you keep inventing scenarios to make your point?

bruh

At an ultra-fast 350 kW charger, IONIQ 6 can add up to 351 km of range in just 15 minutes – or charge from 10 to 80% in just 18 minutes! Hyundai's world's-first technology in IONIQ 5 & 6 supports both 400V and 800V charging infrastructure.

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now you want everyone to drop £50k on a car?

Come on. Be serious.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

you know BEV cars will get cheaper with time, right?

you also do know about used car market right?

be serious...

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This guy: "You're expecting people to drop 50k on a car."

me: screaming in the land of 80k V12 F-150s driven by city commuters

(I seriously live in a dense neighborhood in the city in CA aka US liberal HQ and people here regularly buy high five to low six figure trucks they can't fit in their condo garage...)

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you rented a car for a week? It's prohibitedly expensive for most people, especially if it needs to be big enough for the family and a week vacation. I'm considering getting an EV, but it's only because we'll have my wife's gas powered SUV to use for our longer trips, which are 1-4 times a year. That not an unusual need, and one that make exclusive EVs a no-go for a lot of people. Hybrids are an option of course.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's not more expensive than owning a second car that's for fucking sure. I can rent an RV for less than just the typical maintaince cost of a second car

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But are either of those options cheaper than getting an EV that doesn't require you to do either of those things? That's the decision.

It's pretty common for people to take their vehicle on road trips even if that's only 1-2 trips a year.

Road trips are the reason I wouldn't even be looking at a full EV. I'd be looking at plug-in hybrids. Enough electric for around town trips and gas for when I take it on road trips.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At an ultra-fast 350 kW charger, IONIQ 6 can add up to 351 km of range in just 15 minutes – or charge from 10 to 80% in just 18 minutes!

I am sorry but if you have an issue with taking a 15 minute break every 300 kms or so then maybe the issue lies with you, I mean you literally should take a break like that in those intervals anyway for your health, your focus and thus your safety.

plug-in hybrid is just gonna be less efficient again, it's cost is higher due to additional stuff in the car and fuel efficiency sucks once the batteries run out.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You have different priorities, and that's fine. You don't need to go around acting like your opinion is the only valid one though.

If nothing else, you say 15 minutes as if that's always how long it'll be. In an ideal world, yes. Have you not heard/read the multitude of people who have problems with chargers though? Waiting on others to finish, broken chargers, chargers not going their rated speed, etc.

15 minutes isn't bad. With all I've read I just think it's going to typically be longer than that and I don't want to add hour(s) to a long trip just because of charging.

For me, vehicle cost of a plug-in hybrid would be the biggest factor. I haven't really looked since I'm not in the market for one just yet. I can't imagine it's going to be worth fixing my 17 y/o Prius for much longer though. While they do need ICE and electric parts, they don't need nearly the battery capacity. It's not just slapping on an ICE to something like a Tesla where there would only be extra cost.