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[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (34 children)

Fascism and Stalinism are not the same.

People who unironically support Stalinism in the modern day are red fascists. Whether they are technically the exact same thing or not isn't a meaningful discussion considering the commentary that Sanders is offering here. He is specifically operating within the context of modern American politics. Something average academic/armchair/larpy leftists are often completely fucking incapable of. His main use of analogizing Stalinism with Trumpism is the Cult of Personality not that they are literally the exact same thing. It is exhausting that this needs to be explained.

Sanders use of the term as a political slur wrongly directed at Trump confuses the issue, and ultimately gives capitalism a pass for its own crisis.

How does it give a pass to capitalism? Sanders himself would agree that capitalism contributed to Trumpism.

This is a deliberate falsification that is calculated to confuse political consciousness and hinder the development of revolutionary conclusions.

This is a level of paranoia suggesting actual brain damage, seek medical attention.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (31 children)

People who unironically support Stalinism in the modern day are red fascists.

No, they are not. And the only reason you say they are is because liberals understanding of politics is entirely through the Marvel comic lense of there are "Good guys" and "Bad Guys" and the bad guys are foreign coded

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (20 children)

Says the terminally online tankie troll.

Go touch grass and meet some friends irl. Oh wait...

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Liberals really have nothing except endlessly spewing the same dozen insults at anyone who disagrees with them.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Tankies really have nothing except endlessly cheerlead a dead ideology.

Wait, so you don't have any friends irl.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yup, more of the same rote insults. With some incoherent "no, u!" thrown in.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Go make some friends in real life, if you can.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago

And now you've exhausted the short list of insults and have to repeat the same ones over and over.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lol @ "dead ideology" from the folks who lost to Trump twice

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I mean, there is nothing you could say when the ideology you cheerlead imploded on its own. Even China turned to capitalism after seeing USSR collapsed.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago

imploded on its own.

Jesus, how bad is history education these days?

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Imploded on it's own" lol confidently incorrect, the US put a lot of work into overthrowing the soviet union, and I've got plenty to say about it, what a moronic retort. And lol @ "china turned to capitalism" you mean the country that executes more billionaires than any other on earth? Do you think capitalism is when people trade currency for goods and services? Jesus fucking christ log off and read a book

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I thought as much you would say the same tankie script ad verbatim. The CIA did not even expect the USSR to collapse so soon when it did. Even if China execute couple of billionaires, like out of how many? China produced more billionaires than the USA just before and after the pandemic. That's not communism, is it? Having more billionaires than your rival? USSR sent and killed people for even owning less.

Go touch some grass. Go and meet actual people.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anything's possible when you make shit up kiddo, go read that book now

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

OnE mOaR tWrY pWeAsE. It WiW WoWrK nExT TiMe! ReAd ThEoRy aNd iT ShOuLd WoWrK! ThE eMpIrIcAl eViDeNcE tO tHe CoNtRaRy iS nOt ReAl!

Christ, tankies coping so hard 😂 you lot touched too much grass alright.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago

Why are .world anti-communists all such massive idiots?

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Dumbest anti-communist cliche ever, trying things again til we get them right is literally exactly how we make progress scientifically and politically you fucking moron

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

"Not enough lab rats ~~people~~ died. Bring more in!"

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Just proves the point that tankies ignore reality!

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Capitalism kills millions of people every year, and your argument against progress is that it isn't perfect. You're not just a moron, you're also a coward.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So, you are telling me that you want to replace a system that kills, with another system that also kills. In the name of progress? Are you saying that you are a bigger person to admit that you want to kill.

Tankies are actually-- willing to kill. Hence, the term. Colour me shocked!

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I want to replace a bad system with a better system, simple as. You're either too stupid to understand that it would be a massive improvement or you directly benefit from the evil of the status quo, and yes I'd happily trade your life for it you're a massive waste of oxygen either way

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

yes I'd happily trade your life for it you're a massive waste of oxygen either way

Spoken like a true murderer.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 days ago

You're pro-capitalism, it's literally self defense, you deserve it

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