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Why is there so much hate on Ubuntu from the wider Linux community and is any of it justified? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 days ago by anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml to c/ubuntu@lemmy.ml

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[–] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

By far the worst part about Ubuntu is snap. Canonical has failed its community and the wider Linux community with it in so many ways.

For Ubuntu users

Canonical replacing working debs with snaps. Whether it be long launch times, missing functionality, or broken. They have addressed such issues, but they should have been fixed before becoming the default.
Terrible snap store moderation. Malicious apps have made their way onto the store numerous times. Old abandoned apps are not hidden.

For wider community

Broken or incomplete sandboxing on anything not Ubuntu. They not only rely on AppArmor, but also downstream patches. You have no sandbox on distros such as Fedora and OpenSUSE.
Canonical has full control of the store.

There are other smaller controversies, like Mir, Unity, and Upstart, but none are as bad as snap.

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But how much is anyone forced to use snaps, outside of maybe a few core applications that might define ubuntu? Flatpak can be installed on ubuntu and I'd say most of the important stuff seems to be from the apt repos. Granted that may be an argument for Debian alone but I'm just trying to make sense of it.

Broken or incomplete sandboxing on anything not Ubuntu. They not only rely on AppArmor, but also downstream patches. You have no sandbox on distros such as Fedora and OpenSUSE.

This is a bit outside my zone. Could you please explain this?

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

They're pushing snaps onto users who don't even want them - when you apt install some packages, you get snaps instead. That alone disqualifies Ubuntu in my eyes.

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