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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (9 children)

'Funny' enough, the US backed or was amicable towards several authoritarian socialist polities, so long as they were anti-Soviet, including Yugoslavia, Somalia, and an on-again off-again relationship with the Arab Ba'athist states.

Realpolitik > ideology for the Western Bloc, it would seem.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

I was just coming here to say that lol. We were fine with violent communist dictatorships when it served our interest, just ask good old Uncle Joe.

Edit: And, of course, any functioning government at all but definitely a big one like the US is always a coalition of different interests, ideologies, and competing goals. The ratio of US motivation that's pure anti-communist ideology is never zero but it also was rarely 100%. There were people in US intelligence who worked with Ho Chi Minh before the war started and were pissed and heartbroken when we ignored all his impassioned letters about the rights of small nations to self-determination and started carpet bombing.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Ho went to the Paris Peace Conf after ww1 and tried to get recognition - thinking one country that threw off the yoke of colonialism might help another out....

but that would make sense. sigh.

https://docsteach.org/documents/document/ho-chi-minh-lansing

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He forgot to be white. A classic blunder.

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