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[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that is a good point while this was bad for Russia. Russia have responded with closer ties to China which is definitely not what the US wanted and the way they so openly exposed US financial systems as potentially weaponisable really shook faith in them

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly, and it looks like Russia was far better prepared for this than US was.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think America tried to do a repeat of supporting anti-soviet forces in afghanistan and likely forgot to account for China

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get the impression that US misread the moment in every way. They misjudged Russia, they misunderstood their own abilities, and failed to take Global South into account. It's hands down the biggest debacle US has suffered in living memory.

[–] BasedGeorgeJackson@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dunno about that, the US did murder a million people in Iraq and occupy Afghanistan for two decades only for the Taliban to take over in like 3 days when they left. Give it a few more years to develop and then maybe it'll overshadow those two.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Sure, but those were localized debacles that didn't affect overall geopolitical position of US. Proxy war in Ukraine has done more to erode US geopolitical position than anything else US managed to do.