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  • Wholesale power prices are increasingly turning negative at times of high solar output
  • Observers say rooftop solar is "cannibalising" electricity prices and hitting large-scale solar hard
  • There are calls for storage and greater daytime demand to help soak up solar production
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[โ€“] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 60 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (12 children)

Here in California, utility companies are "solving" this by instituting extremely high fees for the privilege of connecting your solar power to the grid. If I recall from the last time I ran the numbers, rooftop solar panels no longer make economic sense for the vast majority of residential customers - it costs more money to install me solar panels and pay the monthly connection fees then you'll save by producing energy over the lifetime of the solar panels.

Edit: I just googled and it looks like after public outcry the regulators pulled their really bad fee schedule to replace with a slightly less bad fee schedule. The system works!

Probably the one time in history PG&E tried to fix a problem ahead of time. ๐Ÿ˜†

[โ€“] nottheengineer@feddit.de 9 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Can you at least legally have solar that doesn't put any power into the grid?

[โ€“] Contentedness@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

From what I know the batteries you need to store your own electricity at home are crazy expensive

[โ€“] nottheengineer@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but you don't necessarily need batteries. If you just have a bit of solar, you'll use up all the power it produces as it does that.

[โ€“] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure this has been discussed, but storing your solar energy as potential energy could avoid paying connection fees. Pump some ground water into a raised tank - or hoist heavy objects (large logs)?

Now that I type it out, it seems either dangerous or inefficient or not cost effective. Or all of the above.

Fun to think about, though

[โ€“] JoeCoT@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There was a company that stacked concrete bricks to store electricity, with the point being that on demand the crane could pick up bricks and gain the energy from dropping them down. Hit all sorts of news sites, never heard of it reaching practical use.

EDIT as noted by another commentor, apparently it did.

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