ErgoMechKeyboards
Ergonomic, split and other weird keyboards
Rules
Keep it ergo
Posts must be of/about keyboards that have a clear delineation between the left and right halves of the keyboard, column stagger, or both. This includes one-handed (one half doesn't exist, what clearer delineation is that!?)
i.e. no regular non-split¹ row-stagger and no non-split¹ ortholinear²
¹ split meaning a separation of the halves, whether fixed in place or entirely separate, both are fine.
² ortholinear meaning keys layed out in a grid
No Spam
No excessive posting/"shilling" for commercial purposes. Vendors are permitted to promote their products/services but keep it to a minimum and use the [vendor] flair. Posts that appear to be marketing without being transparent about it will be removed.
No Buy/Sell/Trade
This subreddit is not a marketplace, please post on r/mechmarket or other relevant marketplace.
Some useful links
- EMK wiki
- Split keyboard compare tool
- Compare keycap profiles Looking for another set of keycaps - check this site to compare the different keycap profiles https://www.keycaps.info/
- Keymap database A database with all kinds of keymap layouts - some of them fits ergo keyboards - get inspired https://keymapdb.com/
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What is the advantage? Or is it just for fun?
I assume they wanted a sweep with a thumb cluster they find more comfortable. Plus I think those controllers provide easier flashing and programming
It's 99% the thumb cluster: I wanted an extra button.
Also 99% for fun.
Yeah Pi Picos are better than arduinos now for 70% of applications (battery-powered being the exception. It has horribly high sleep power consuption)
Better in what way? And what is an Arduino? Just the ATmega328P?
Most of the atmega chips that are frequently used in the hobby space are pretty damn old. They work completely fine, but somethings show their age. Something like the H7 is way better, but I'm talking about normal entry level low-cost boards, mostly the 328p, but possible also the atmega2560.
Rp2040 has a higher clock frequency and much more SRAM, 12 bit vs 10 bit ADC. Programmable IO, MUCH cheaper price, and 100x the availability. It can use both arduino and its own C SDK as well as micropython which is pretty neat. Overall a great chip and personally I would consider it the modern successor.
The ESP32 is better in essentially every way compared to both the old ATmega chips as well as the PI Picos RP2040. MicroPython is the one thing where the Pi Pico has an advantage. Am I missing something? Last time I looked at the Pi Pico I was... disappointed.
I am also very happy with my teensy boards, can only recommend them.
Nope, ESP32 is better in every way except that it costs 2x as much due to the integrated BT and WiFi. The chip only for the RP2040 is 0.92€, supporting components bring it to about 1.50€ compared to the standard ESP32-WROOM module for 2.50€. If you don't need WiFi/bt, then volume production will make a difference there.
Otherwise yeah, fully go for the ESP32. The DACs are much more linear too due to a bug in RP2040.
Though the RP2040 does have integrated USB which makes it compatible with QMK for hobbyists.
Teensy boards are one of the most powerful hobbyist microcontrollers readily available, but they also come at 10x the price.
Okay, I think I understand you. Thank you for the feedback. To me, higher prices are essentially irrelevant when I only need like 1 or 2 new per year, the rest gets recycled. Hence I am looking for features instead of lowest cost.
Is it easier than: plug USB in -> upload?
Pretty sure it allows you to drag and drop the firmware file in the file browser instead of flashing through the terminal/qmk toolbox or whatever. Not an advantage to me but hey, some people use a file browser a lot I guess
Good point! That is indeed easier.