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Why do you feel people must justify "need"? Aside from the PITA at a range or sporting use which is by far the majority of when people are using them, do you "need" your gas tank to hold whatvit does? Why not hold 5gals and you can simply fill itnup all the time? What does that acomplish other than being a pain in the ass?
Also, AR's aren't "assault rifles". An M16 is, an M4 is, just like your initial argument these are things people say that (sorry), dont know what they're talkig about.
Because people and children are dying from firearm related deaths all the fucking time in this country. Your rights end where another's nose begins.
LOL! Sure lunatic. So the criminals that by definition dont follow the law and have no issues comiting murder, will swap those 30rd mags for 10's becuase those are legal right? Makes no difference that its a felony for them to be in possession of a firearm is already a crime, the mag limit.... That'll stop them right?
You're hilarious. I'll bet speed limits and DUI laws stop people too right? The ol' gotta do "something" even when its proven not to work mindset huh?
Plan your next vacation to reality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Give an example of how that's a straw man, its literally punishing the innocent for the crimes of criminal with laws theyre already ignoring.
Nice try.
I never said anything about any of this:
Or this:
You are arguing against a position I do not hold, a strawman.
If your argument is that limiting magazine capacity for people not commuting crimes, has an effect on people that ignore laws and will not produce any real life result as a consequence of that, than yes, you are.
Now you've moved the goal posts.
These two statements:
and
are fundamentally different claims.
Goal posts are exactly where they've always been. You want the innocent hindered/punished for the crimes of criminals with laws/regulations that only apply to those who follow laws in the first place. Law that aren't new, and have proven useless. You're clearly not a CA resident, or a gun owner because this is elementary school simple, yet clearly over your head.
Not anymore, because
and
are not the same. They are fundamentally different claims. One is focused on effect, the other on intent.
That's not what I want.
And this is an ad hominem.
has an effect on people that ignore laws and
criminals that by definition dont follow the law and have no issues comiting murder, will swap those 30rd mags for 10’s becuase those are legal are not the same. They are fundamentally different claims. One is focused on effect, the other on intent.
Those are constant facts, they move nothing. Unless you're claiming that criminals follow laws.
Then explain why you support regulations that will only accomplish just that.
No, that's obvious. The ad-hominem would be you virtue signalling children as a way to violate the rights of the law abiding.
Nah. From what I've seen, you'd just intentionally miss the point.
You don't have a point to miss, which is why you won't answer. Thanks for playing.
Thanks for proving that you'll intentionally miss the point.
More fluff and still no answer......
smoothbrain take right here