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Suicides are a form of gun violence.
I never made that argument, so this is a strawman.
Strawman? My friend these are gun laws in California. The state we're talking about.
And the intent behind them, at least the ones you specified, is not to deal with suicides. They are to prevent accidents (which is a part of gun violence).
You are basically saying "these car seat belt laws don't do anything to prevent airplane crashes!". Yeah no shit, that wasn't the point of those laws.
Dog I think you're losing track of the conversion. This post is about mag capacities, a measure trying to tackle gun murder. I started my comment talking about gun murders. I'm still taking about gun murders and related laws. You brought up suicide statistics
No, I brought up firearm deaths as a whole, which is a part of the problem. California has addressed it, which is why they have a lower firearm death rate.
And like I said, that is misleading. California's gun laws were added to reduce firearm deaths at a whole, so it is misleading to only go by gun murders.
You're over simplifying the issue.
How?
Lumping in 2 issues with 2 separate causes and solutions as evidence that (in this case) a mag capacity ban works, is an oversimplification.
Mag cap bans have nothing to do with suicide and weren't intended to. So bringing it up is just a distraction from the conversion this post is focusing on.
You're the one who broadened the conversation:
"California regulations have done nothing to improve gun violence in their state when compared to less restrictive states like Texas. "
Most people don't categorized suicide as violence. But even if you do, I made it clear in my next statements that I was talking about gun murders.