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So, the time has come to upgrade my i7 4790k and GTX 760.

I'm looking at getting the following, but I'm stuck on what graphics card to get (this is something I am happy to replace in a couple of years, if I was to get something like the 4060)

PC specs that I have landed on.

  • AMD 7800X3D
  • 32gb of DDR5 6000Mhz CL36 rammy boys
  • Gigabyte B650 ATX motherboard
  • Noctua 140mm CPU cooler

I am carrying over the following from my old PC

  • Case (Fractal Disign Pop)
  • SSD storage
  • EVGA 850w gold PSU

I am having difficulty picking a graphics card, I'm looking at the 4060, is there anything as good as from team Red that I could consider? I do plan on upgrading in a couple of years time.

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[–] xyguy@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'll chime in with a build tip. DDR5 can take a super long time to post on first boot. Like a long time. Like a looooooong time. Like "RMA the board thinking it has memory issues" long. It's only on the initial boot during memory training and shouldnt happen again unless you reset the bios but just keep that in mind.

Also DDR5 is more sensitive than previous gens about being seated properly. Try not to touch the contacts whatsoever or wipe them off with microfiber and alcohol before seating them. It sounds excessive but I've solved problems before doing just a ram clean + reseat.

Also also, if you're looking at a 4060 look instead at a 6700xt and if you are looking at a 6700xt a 7700xt is marginally faster but has more hardware features. For the same money as a 7700xt you can get the last generation 6800 which has the same raw horsepower and more vram but lacks the new hardware features namely AV1 hardware decoding and envoding. They can still ray trace decently but they have a lot more raw power than a 4060 and more vram which if you hold on to a machine for years, which it looks like you do, the extra vram could be the difference between a game being able to start or not down the road. It's complicated.

4060-DLSS-Better Ray Tracing-RT hard to do with a lower spec card-only 8gb vram

6700xt-12GB vram-equal raster performance to 4060-Lesser ray tracing chops- missing extended AV1 and DLSS support.

6800-16gb vram- faster than 4060 and 6700xt-Missing AV1 and DLSS-more expensive.

7700xt-12GB vram- faster that 4060 or 6700xt-AV1 hardware support-more expensive-no dlss

PS I'm still rocking an AMD R9 390 from 2017 and even though I don't get a lot of fps anymore I can still enable HD textures and get really nice visuals just because of the 8gb vram which was a lot back then.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I didn't experience that at all. My DDR5 computer posted immediately on first boot.

[–] xyguy@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's interesting, I've had it happen on several occasions. Maybe I've been unlucky or had weird ram timings.

By chance do you know the speed and timings of the ram in your system?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Two 16GB sticks of DDR5 4800 (PC5 38400) 32GB total

And the MOBO is a Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Pro

I didn't change any timings, everything is running stock. There's faster stuff now, but I bought this when it was bleeding edge and the MOBO and RAM alone cost me $650.