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There has been a ton of CSAM and CP arrests in the US lately, especially from cops and teachers, along with at least one female teacher seducing boys as young as 12. I cannot understand the attraction to kids. Even teens. Do these people think they are having a relationship, or it is somehow okay to take away another human beings' innocence? Is it about sex, power, or WTH is it? Should AI generated CSAM and CP be treated the same as a real person since it promotes the same issues? I am a grandfather, and I am worried about how far this will go with the new AI being able to put anyone's face into a Porno movie too.

It seems to me that a whole new set of worldwide guidelines and laws need to be put into effect asap.

How difficult would it be for AI photo apps to filter out words, so someone cannot make anyone naked?

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[–] Axxys@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's not OK make CSAM.

The origin of CSAM does not make it acceptable.

[–] TeachersPet1992@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The SA in CSAM is sexual abuse. Who is being sexually abused in order to make a drawing?

[–] Vedlt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not an expert in any field relating to any of this by any means, but we can all agree that CSAM is unequivocally reprehensible. Thusly many people will have severe issues with anything that normalizes it even remotely. That would be my knee jerk response anyway.

[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well maybe we shouldn’t base our decisions on knee jerk responses.

Imo if nobody’s being hurt then it’s none of our business. If it helps these people to deal with their urges without actually hurting anyone then I think that’s unquestionably a good thing.

[–] Slowy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it is in fact helping them, yes. It would be ideal to do a study of how it affects their self control before going that direction though I think, as some argue it would do the opposite.

[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it is in fact helping them, yes

Okay so… we agree?

And yes, some would argue the opposite. But I don’t think we should be creating laws without any actual proof one way or the other.

[–] Slowy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t have enough information to have an opinion and I do agree with you that knee jerk reactions are not ideal. But choosing to allow it (at a time when AI generated media is starting to be regulated) is also a decision.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but it's wrong for very different reasons and severities. Murder vs murder porn, if you will. Both are bad and gross, but different, and that matters.

But that's irrelevant to my question, which no one actually answered.

I am curious about people's take on the difference between human creativity from memory vs AI "creativity" from training. The porn aspect is only relevant in that it's an edge case that makes the debate meaningful.

There are laws today that you can't copyright AI art, but we can copyright art that's based on a person's combined experiences. That seems arbitrary to me, and I'm trying to understand better.

[–] Axxys@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I did answer your question. The answer is no.