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Cowards.
I dont know what everyone was expecting. Enduring nonsensical rules, shitty working conditions and incompetent authority figures is about the most military thing there is.
Did you wear the uniform? What are you doing to help prevent the 22 suicides a day among our service members?
This is what the military subs have had to weigh when making these calls.
I have met people who was in the service enough to know the struggle is real.
It's just hard to believe that they depend on Reddit for their support system.
Unfortunately if they are US service personnel this would not be hard to believe at all.
Why only US?
Presumably other countries actually give a fuck about helping their soldiers.
That is a false presumption. Overall compared to most countries the VA is not bad
Most countries that don't have universal health care, you mean.
It depends what you mean by universal healthcare- but also generally the US pays much better. And at least in the area I used to live the VA wasn't bad.
The US may pay well in terms of gross pay, but the real wages (spending power) and social supports are significantly weaker than in most other developed countries.
In terms of social supports for specifically soldiers idk in general, but I know that's not true for st least one NATO & EU state
Hate to break it to you but the US is last in OECD nations regarding universal healthcare and I can't believe I have to explain that
Yeah but we aren't talking about universal healthcare. We are talking about specifically veterans and current soldiers
You mentioned it bro, not me. I'd guess America also treats its military members like second class citizens, pretty common to see stories of the VA leaving soldiers high and dry after quite literally using their bodies to fuel imperialism.
No I didn't?
Yeah it's nowhere near perfect, but I know from personal experience that at least some other NATO countries are worse
They can pack it up and move here where they won’t be pushed around like pawns. It’s be pretty easy to leave instructions on how to migrate.
Yes, did you?
Nope, just a civilian, but married to a career Soldier.
Another thing I never see anyone in US is talking about: If US veterans need so much help (and they really do), what is happening to people in counties they were fighting against? And those are not only soldiers, but whole families. Everyone ober there has witnessed same shit they did, kids, elders, moms...
"Developed" countries see "undeveloped" countries (or whatever euphemism you want to use) as Others. We may be the target of their charity or of their pity sometimes, but we remain a mysterious monolith. I'm reminded of that whenever someone says "The US is [generally something bad] among developed countries".
I'm not angry about it. I get it. I still wish it wasn't that way.
As trivia, at least one "undeveloped" country has universal healthcare.
Least ignorant Redditor.
How does that compare to Lemmywinkers?
I did not, although my father did. It's pretty grandiose to claim that a subreddit is helping prevent military suicides.
What's the MILITARY doing to prevent the 22 suicides a day?
Not enough. Still too much stigma attached to behavioral health.
That's why there is so much need for additional support from elsewhere.
So it’s everyone else’s responsibility to protect people subjected to Israeli wars by the lapdog US government?
I don't think that's fair. People can come here if they want. They can hate Reddit if they want. Let's not demonize communities that decided to reopen is best for their community. It doesn't need to be some judgement "Fuck everyone who didn't come to here".
That's fair. It still makes them cowards though, word definitions don't change because we want harmony.
It's cowardly to make a stand against the admins and then just roll over when they tell you to sit down and shut up. Doesn't matter if it's Reddit or anywhere else.
Agreed. I’m actually really enjoying the filter right now. I mean, I want reddit to fall apart too, but I am more interested in lemmy succeeding, and they are different wants.
Fr. Surprises me that military personnel of all people would be so fragile. Don't give in. Post "hey we're moving to Lemmy, see you there" and fucking go. It's 2023 going to a new site is the easiest thing in the world, it's not like 1999 where most of the forum would have difficulty doing that..
I mean, they've got their priorities right. It's reddit's fault that they're killing their own communities. We should try to reach out in subs like this and help them set up on lemmy.