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The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.

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[–] serial_crusher@lemmy.basedcount.com -3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Organizers expressed frustration. Past iterations of the conference have “always felt safe and loving and embracing,” said Bo Young Lee, president of advisory at AnitaB.org, in a LinkedIn post. “And this year, I must admit, I didn’t feel this way.”

“This group was really accepting until all these unacceptable people showed up”

[–] LPThinker@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is such a brain dead take. The conference exists to support a group that has been and is actively discriminated against and harassed in the tech industry. All the men crashing the event care not at all about the conference, its mission, and its participants - they’re just desperate to find a job. And while I absolutely sympathize with people suffering unemployment, it’s really shitty (and sadly so typical and indicative of the problem) to flood a space designed for women and non-binary people, completely disregarding them in the race to get ahead.

[–] cricket97@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The conference should have been for females, not women. Transgender women are over represented in tech and the real numerical discrepancy is with the number of females in tech.

[–] LPThinker@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Since I am not a woman, transgender or otherwise, I won’t comment on the differences or similarities of their experiences. That said, excluding transgender women from a woman-oriented space does not seem helpful or thoughtful to me, just transphobic.

Also, distinguishing between women and females is not something I’m familiar with and don’t feel good about it. It’s certainly self-evident that afab women and transgender women have on average different lives experiences especially during their formative years in which an interest in tech and CS is likely to be either cultivated or discouraged. Nonetheless, given the significant prejudice against transgender people, I imagine few women would begrudge them participation in this community.

[–] mplewis@lemmy.globe.pub 27 points 11 months ago

Dude, have you worked in tech? At all? It’s already horrendously overrun with men who step outside their space and make everyone’s day worse. I don’t begrudge women for being frustrated that it’s happening at the Grace Hopper conference.