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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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Many scientists don’t want to tell the truth about climate change. Here’s why (www.wbur.org)
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[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The effects of climate change are not binary.

And nobody said they are.

I said that inertia means that they're already inevitable and that the only thing that's going to wake sufficient people up is if the consequences are so dire that the politicians can no longer lie about them and the people can no longer ignore them. That's just the way it is.

There is no doubt that we are feeling the effects of man-influenced climate change.

And yet a significant number of people continue to believe that it doesn't even exist.

That's part of my point.

However, that does not mean that we should just give up. There is a difference between +1.5c and +2.0c. It is a fight worth fighting for.

You can't even convince them that it exists. What on earth leads you to believe you can convince them that it not only exists, but could get worse?

Unfortunately, there's only one thing that will convince them it exists and potentially spur them to action, and that's if the effects become so pronounced that it's literally impossible for them to deny it (and for the politicians to lie about it). And at this point, already, inevitably, the consequences are going to get that bad. That too is part of my point.

The reason why you don’t pay attention to the topic of climate change is because you do not give 2 shits and/or are not willing to change your ways and make any sacrifice.

Fuck you. You don't know the first fucking thing about me.

I said exactly what I believed and why, but you've chosen to effectively call me a liar and accuse me of just being yet another self-absorbed piece of shit.

Seriously - fuck you.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I think you underestimate how popular taking action to stop climate change is. Even in places like Texas, it has super-majority support. The idea that it is a controversial issue is just made up to feed into climate apathy.