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This is absolutely not true. This Democratic president allowed this one 20 mile section of border wall to be built, and also supports DACA, common sense immigration reform to increase legal immigration, increased work visas, and more. The leading Republican candidate is trying to build thousands of miles of wall, thinks people should be shot trying to cross the border, and says some people who are US citizens with Latin American heritage should be deported and their citizenship revoked. Where in the living fuck are you getting your information
How about we do a proper census?
No.
The party builds walls.
Stay with me here, what if the democratic party just didn't do those bad things at all? Or even better, what if we voted for a candidate that wouldn't do those bad things to begin with?
There are plenty people in the Democratic party who would do things differently, but Republicans universally demonize immigrants and if in power would make life much harder for them.
We live in a democracy where there will always be disagreement between people on policymaking. If you didn't disagree with a Democratic politician on anything at all, you're probably in a cult of personality, a la Trump supporters. That in no way means you should stop advocating for the positions you support and voting for candidates that most align with your values.
What we're talking about here is the difference between Democrats and Republicans after that cynical dude at the top said they were the same when they very much are not. If you don't support a Democratic candidate in a 2 way race because you don't support 15% of their positions, you are voting for the Republican, 95% of whose positions you don't support
I'm not actually voting for either.
Reread the last sentence of the comment you’re replying to.
No candidate will ever be ideal, and apathy just makes things easier for the worst ones. Get off your ass and vote.
I definitely vote in every election. But never for the democrats or republicans.
I misunderstood. If you’re participating in the process and doing what you believe in, that’s cool.
My City Councilman is a Socialist for example, and I definitely voted for him, same with a member of the Municipal Water Board.
Until the USA gets preferential voting, I would suggest considering the repercussions.
You're absolutely right. We have the choice between a shit sandwich, and a fifty five gallon drum of pig shit that's been left out in the summer sun in Texas for six weeks.
Either way, shit's on the menu, but the bread does make it a bit more palatable.
I disagree with this too. The Democratic party has already moved in a more progressive direction from where they were 20, 30, 40 years ago, and it will continue to do so if we continue to vote for more progressive candidates and hold them accountable. I'll vote for a Democrat any day of the week and I'll be happy when they win
So you are a progressive neo-lib.
Nothing like those conservative neo-cons.
starts playing that song about high school rivalry from Grease
Dumb. Stop supporting the parties of capital. You shoot the fucker who gave you that choice, and then you take his non-shit sandwich.