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[-] davefischer@beehaw.org 6 points 9 months ago

Windows NT ACLs come from VMS.

The Unix world has traditionally not liked ACLs because Multics had them, and Unix was an ultra-minimalist response to Multics.

[-] zero_iq@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yep, you're right. I was thinking of an ACL evolution/chain of influence of VMS -> AIX -> NT, but it seems VMS -> NT and VMS -> AIX as two separate histories is much more accurate. Thanks for the correction -- I've updated my comment accordingly.

[-] davefischer@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

My AIX experience is very limited. What was the VMS connection?

[-] zero_iq@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

VMS implemented ACLs in the early 80s. It's design influenced the design of ACLs in both AIX and Windows NT.

[-] davefischer@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I'm familiar with VMS, and Cutler bringing a lot of the internal design to W/NT. (I'm told in particular a lot of the data structures for system calls in NT look like VMS.) My AIX experience has consisted entirely of "This is weird. This isn't normal for Unix." Ha ha. (I had a 1st gen RS/6000 at home briefly in the late 90s.)

And I do have a "grey wall" in my library:

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