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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nope! And thats bad. But marriage equality is not the only measure of queer rights. Queer people in China are largely left alone and not hate crimed and speaking as a queer I'd rather get to be alive than get married.

China absolutely needs to work on its legal rights for queer people. I'm not saying otherwise. But you are still looking at the issue through a very western lense, and a hypocritical one considering how recently queer rights have even been begun to be accepted in the west. And how fast we are moving backwards on them in America especially. And how bad issues like homeless queer youth still are.

[–] dokapuff@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why is it hypocritical? I've supported the LGBT movement for literally as long as I can remember. It's somehow my fault that other people haven't realized that gay people are still people?

Have you ever criticized someone for looking at the issue through a very eastern lense or is that reserved for people you deem as western-enough?

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a Christian, but one of the things I've always felt Jesus was really on point on was when he said "take the beam out of your own eye before taking the speck of dust from your neighbors".

I think this can be applied to geopolitics very well, even if you think the other country has the beam and you have the speck of dust, its still advisable to focus on your own countries problems. Its hypocritical not on a personal level, but on a national level. To use a non Christian phrase, its throwing stones in a glass house. Idk what specific country you're from, but unless its China you can't do much about China's issues with queer rights, so why focus on them? Focus on wherever you're from.

Like literally the only thing a Westerner can "do about" Chinese queer rights issues is encourage war/regime change, which you should know does not have a good record of working out for the effected country. And thats the problem we communists have when people start talking about China's problem. We know our countries want regime change in China, so we see this shit as supporting of that. Its basically a threat.

Have you ever criticized someone for looking at the issue through a very eastern lense or is that reserved for people you deem as western-enough?

No, I haven't, because I'm a westerner lol. Like I said, I focus my criticisms at home.

[–] dokapuff@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I want good for all people on this Earth. Like, I wouldn't ignore verbal abuse just because there's physical assault still happening, y'know? I'm not a politician or even a particularly smart guy. I know my original post came off bad, sorry.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

Well, what happens when the guy doing physical assault wants you on his side vs the verbal abuse guy? Thats the US running propaganda on China.