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[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Finland already solved this. A regular ol house upfront and then aid in accessing social services and job placement helps way more than anything else. Here's an article if you're interested

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Finland if you don't find housing you die

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In anywhere, you don't find housing your lifespan decreases dramatically.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But you don't die that winter.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every region except the most moderate of them has a season that'll kill you. Don't be so reductive.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Finland is in that season far more than places with more homeless. You're being reductive by saying "we should just copy Finland". I'm introducing you to the idea that it's more complicated than that.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I didn't say we should copy Finland. Youre being reductive by saying "the only reason you have to do that there is because it'll kill em otherwise." My whole point is that every region has harsh climates that will kill you, the simple fact that anyone doesn't have a home will drastically decrease their lifespan.

More reasons we can't just copy Finland, we're huge. We're not homogeneous. We have a particularly prickly culture towards the homeless. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't look at their successes and actually think critically before spouting shit about their region being the sole reason. Guess they never had any homeless before 2007 or 2008, when they started housing first, because they all just died every winter.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I was giving one example among a myriad of reasons why we can't just copy Finland. Reading comprehension, please.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

And my point is it's a shit reason because EVERYWHERE either kills you or makes it far harder to survive without a home. Reading comprehension, please.