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[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So your solution to fossil fuels causing pollution. Is to cause an ecological disaster? "Let's blow up the pipeline full of oil that is bad for everything it touches. Surely the resulting oil spill won't be bad for everything covered".

[–] batmangrundies@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can deconstruct a pipeline while keeping environmental contamination to a minimum. There is a fairly well-known book out there that tells you exactly how as well.

You're also not understanding what is at stake here. You could do better to weigh the scale of what is coming down the pipe at us vs localized oil spills.

It's a moral obligation to engage in civil disobedience and direct action. Especially if you live in a country like mine where protesting now carries the risk of a $$,$$$ fine.

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I understand perfectly what's at stake. How ever I also understand that the average USA resident is... how do I put this..... fucking stupid? Like sure there is a book on how to do it right. But some idiot is just going make a sodium bomb because that's easy. And that's the issue I feel like no one else sees. Tha average American is stupid and situationally unaware of anything. It's a moral obligation IF you can do it without additional harm. To be frank I doubt my fellow Americans to be able to do it properly. Civil disobedience is a great thing but there is a significant gap between Civil disobedience and domestic ecoterrorism

To be completely transparent I am writing this off a bottle of wine. So either this is complete lunacy, or my true thoughts, And I can't see which.