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Racism and the CPC (lemmy.ca)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca
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Stuff like this and the "base" he has created give off pretty harsh trump vibes. Here is a link confirming for those wanting one. Sorry I did not include it originally. https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.712106

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[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

If the right does what it always does here and votes C no matter what, the Cons won't form another government for a generation. If they seriously elect a racist populist like this guy, from a party that voted to not admit climate change exists, Millennials and Gen Z will become ABC voters for life.

So if you need some kind of (very long term) silver lining, there's that.

The problem is they'll make housing worse, peoples rights worse, and 2SLGBTQ+ lives much worse, and cause even more climate crises than we have now. Not to mention absolutely gutting our healthcare.

But again, they'll only do it once.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except we also see Gen Z becoming increasingly polarized around issues such as gender roles, education, opportunities for social and economic progression, and other issues that are right in the fascists' wheelhouse.

The Conservatives the lie about their platform and agenda forever, so long as they have these social coals that they can blow on and stoke in the background over and over.

We can't rely on people running away from the Conservatives over and over again. We need to give them something to run toward, and no major political party in this country is doing that.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Electoral reform was the promise that swayed me to vote Liberal.

[–] folkrav@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Obviously they just dropped that shit like a hot potato, as they all do. Why change what got you voted in?

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and no major political party in this country is doing that.

I'd say the NDP are doing a pretty damn good job. We got higher CERB payments, and we got dental (partially) added to our medical. That's impressive especially from 3rd place, not even the official opposition. Obviously having a non-white leader causes them a lot of problems, but their policies are extremely popular, especially among youth.

I can't find the poll, but back in 2022 a poll was done on voters by age for federal voting intentions.

Seniors were about 15% NDP 40-55 were about 25% NDP 30-under were about 40% NDP

So while the Cons are making strides forward, sadly, it's because they're lying about what they'll do. And the generations coming up are very into a more left-wing swing. If you look even with the CPC in first, it's like 36% of voters. Nearly 2/3rds of voters are left wing in Canada, and eventually that's going to tip too far for even a big-tent Con party.

If they take power when things start getting really shit climate-change wise, and they still haven't even admitted it existed, those voters will shy away forever. Not to mention the CPC constantly using the same companies to help their 'image'/policies as Trump and other hard Right parties; Gen Z are going to live through that, and say never again.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d say the NDP are doing a pretty damn good job.

They've done a very good job at shifting progressively more to the right year over year, decade over decade, abandoning any sense that they're here to actually institute real change -- and abandoning their founding principles in the process. All in the name of electability, while failing to break out of 3rd place. Like the Liberals, they've been chasing the Overton Window right for 30+ years.

Yes, they've managed to strongarm the Liberals into actually engaging in harm reduction here and there, and that's really great, but they never do anything when and where they're in power to actually show that they're in any way different from the others. When push comes to shove, they're just another neoliberal political party.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm confused:

They’ve done a very good job at shifting progressively more to the right year over year, decade over decade, abandoning any sense that they’re here to actually institute real change Yes, they’ve managed to strongarm the Liberals into actually engaging in harm reduction here and there

Which of these is true? Because only one can be, those are self-defeating statements.

All in the name of electability, while failing to break out of 3rd place ... but they never do anything when and where they’re in power to actually show that they’re in any way different from the others.

So again, which is it? Are they never breaking out of third place, or are they in power?

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

He's been going hard on the idea that removing red tape for developers will solve the housing crisis, rather than developers turning the maximum profit they can because demand is so high. He thinks the market that's destroyed affordability will also solve it, if only the public has less say in what/where is allowed to be developed. NDP want to convert underutilized federal buildings in to social housing and focus on affordability rather than developer profits.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

So you haven't noticed the huge swing towards populism and fascism in the younger generations these last ten years?