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But it's not just some countries, it's our entire corner of the world - for my purposes the more or less "western aligned" one.
I'm Norwegian and we've just almost definitely flipped conservative again after a remarkably efficient belly flop by "Labour". They fucked up bad enough even local elections turned markedly conservative, in some cases ending basically 100 years of Labour tradition. Sweden is seeing a marked rise in the "immigrant bad" Sverigedemokraterna, which were pretty fringe until recently. Germany has the whole AfD thing going on. You already mentioned Poland and the UK. There's also Hungary in the same vein. Slovakia just turned pro-Russia which is inherently hard to couple with intellect. All of this has been fairly noticeable over the past decade, and that's just the Euro view. In the US they went from "your suit sucks" to "you weren't born here" and then really jumped the shark.
You're confused. We're not talking about countries turning right, we're talking about countries being anti-intellectual. It's not the same. Far-right Spanish parties are not anti-intellectual, far-right UK parties are not (IMHO) anti-intellectual. Also, is the other way around: people are not voting for far-right parties because they are anti-intellectual. Attacking education is just a tool used by right with parties to create division between "us" (the God fearing, traditional values loving conservatives) and "them" (the educated elites that want to destroy the traditional way of living). The growing anti-intellectual sentiments is just a result of right wing parties gaining power, not the other way around.