this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2023
87 points (93.9% liked)

No Stupid Questions

34449 readers
1347 users here now

No such thing. Ask away!

!nostupidquestions is a community dedicated to being helpful and answering each others' questions on various topics.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)


Rule 1- All posts must be legitimate questions. All post titles must include a question.

All posts must be legitimate questions, and all post titles must include a question. Questions that are joke or trolling questions, memes, song lyrics as title, etc. are not allowed here. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.



Rule 2- Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.



Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.



Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.



Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Questions which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.



Rule 6- Regarding META posts and joke questions.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-question posts using the [META] tag on your post title.

On fridays, you are allowed to post meme and troll questions, on the condition that it's in text format only, and conforms with our other rules. These posts MUST include the [NSQ Friday] tag in their title.

If you post a serious question on friday and are looking only for legitimate answers, then please include the [Serious] tag on your post. Irrelevant replies will then be removed by moderators.



Rule 7- You can't intentionally annoy, mock, or harass other members.

If you intentionally annoy, mock, harass, or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.



Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.



Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.



Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.



Credits

Our breathtaking icon was bestowed upon us by @Cevilia!

The greatest banner of all time: by @TheOneWithTheHair!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

It always looked so weird to me, like, who not just read the Bible like a proper book instead of having all of those numbering?

I guess it's because it makes easy to find some specific line? But that is from an academic perspective instead of something you would put in a faith book?

When did that started and why they put all the numbering?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 49 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Firstly, the Bible, as we know it, is a collection of books and sections that were written over several thousand years.

I guess it's because it makes easy to find some specific line? But that is from an academic perspective instead of something you would put in a faith book?

You have this backward. It's very important for texts of proselytizing religions to be easy to navigate and repeat.

As for when/why it started, this article from BibleOdyssey.org does a good job of explaining that in detail.

[–] vis4valentine@lemmy.ml 26 points 9 months ago (5 children)

So, if I wanna start a 1 billion people religion, gotta write my shit like:

The Lost Apples

  1. And it came to pass that I went to the park with my apples, But I was so focused on TikTok that I did not heed where I placed them.
  2. And I wandered the park, watching video after video, And when I finally looked up, my apples were gone!
  3. I searched high and low, but they were nowhere to be found. I asked the squirrels and the birds, but they had not seen them either.
  4. And I was filled with great sorrow, for I had lost my apples. I sat down on a bench and began to weep.
  5. But then I remembered the words of the wise: "Do not despair, for all things are in the hands of the Lord."
  6. And I knew that my apples were safe, even if I could not find them. So I stood up and went on my way, trusting that the Lord would provide.
  7. And as I walked, I saw a little girl sitting on a swing. She was eating an apple, and it was the most delicious-looking apple I had ever seen.
  8. I approached the little girl and asked her where she had gotten the apple. She smiled and said, "A nice man gave it to me."
  9. And I knew that the Lord had provided. I thanked the little girl for the apple and took a bite.
  10. And it was the most delicious apple I had ever tasted.
[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If you ever want to steal candy from a baby, remember Lost Apples verses 7-9.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I can't tell if you're trying to be clever or not but do you really view that any different than referring to poetry by stanza/line? Or books by page number/paragraph/line? The Bible has been written, rewritten, and edited thousands of times, it makes no sense to say "page 121, paragraph 3" when quoting from it

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

It also facilitates two things. First, hermeneutics. Which is the art of overanalizing text ad nauseam until you can manufacture new meaning that wasn't put there by the author in the first place, by sheer force of dubious rethoric. And secondly taking individual lines out of context to support fringe and contradictory statements.

I imagine if your book got translated into hundreds of different languages, eventually people would add numbers to the verses. Sometimes the translated version is not a great translation to the original languages intent, so it's easy to reference the verse number across other translations or compare it across languages

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

You don't need to write it like this. Just write normally (prose or poetry, your choice), and other people will fragment your text this way, while either discussing it [proto-]academically or looking for hidden stuff in it.