I'm Irish, and I can tell you that my people fought a violent and bloody revolution against the strongest empire in the world, and they did so without going on a rampage of indiscriminately killing innocent civilians, women, children and family pets.

You can support rights and sovereignty for Palestine without justifying the evil terrorists actions of Hamas over the weekend. If anything Hamas has now done more damage to the Palestinian cause than anything in history.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You... Actually think no women or child were hurt by Irish resistance?

[–] donuts@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did I say that? Or do you simply not understand the definition of the words "indiscriminately" and "rampage"?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I understand that you're dehumanizing Hamas.

Brits described the Irish the exact same way. Like animals.

[–] donuts@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm dehumanizing how? By plainly and literally describing what over the weekend happened in an objective fashion?

indiscriminate (adj) - done at random or without careful judgment.

rampage (n) - violent or excited behavior that is reckless, uncontrolled, or destructive.

You clearly don't have a leg to stand on here. Time to move on, go talk into a shoebox or something.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It wasn't random and it wasn't without careful judgement and it wasn't uncontrolled. They aren't rampaging beasts. This was calculated.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bombings_during_the_Troubles

[–] donuts@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did you read the page you listed? Do you understand the history you're citing? Do you understand how these IRA bombings were completely different than the rampage Hamas did over the weekend?

The answer to all of those questions is a resounding "no".

5 August 1969 - RTÉ Studio bombing: The Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) detonated a bomb at Raidió Teilifís Éireann (RTÉ) headquarters in Donnybrook, Dublin, Republic of Ireland, causing significant damage.[2]

In your first shitty example, the British loyalist UVF from Northern Ireland bombed an Irish radio station. Nobody was injured.

11 August – 1970 Crossmaglen bombing: Two Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) officers were killed by a booby-trap car bomb exploded in Crossmaglen, County Armagh. They were the first RUC victims of the IRA.[3]

In your next bad example, the IRA bombed the northern Irish "police", who were literally an active part in the oppression campaign and should not be considered innocent civilians.

I mean, should I go on?

The IRA unfortunately did kill innocent people and even children at points during the troubles, but they never did so intentionally or indiscriminately going on a rampage like we just saw Hamas do. As bad as the war and the troubles were the IRA never did anything even remotely analogous to what Hamas just did. What's more, the British occupation killed far more Irish than the Irish ever killed Brits, fyi.

You should learn about history before you try to cite it, especially as a justification for today's atrocities.