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Antiwork/Work Reform

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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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Date Created: June 15, 2023

Date Updated: July 17, 2023

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[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, one has to pay for the means of production including the land, which is just sitting there and required nobody to go to any effort?

You see the problem there?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, because if you don't own the land, you have no right to trespass on it to work that land.

Now, here's the correct way to do it:

  1. Buy the land and do what you want with it.

  2. Contact the owner of the land and work out an agreement. Maybe they'll let you use it for free, maybe they'll take a cut of whatever you produce there, whatever is mutually agreeable.

You don't have the right to just do whatever you want, and, further, once you put the effort in to do something with that land, nobody can just take it from you because they feel your work has no value.

For example...

I have a fence that faces a busy road. It's on my property and just sits there, it provides privacy for my home.

Someone asked if it was OK to hang carpets on my fence and try to sell them.

I told them "Sure, kick me 5% of the sales and you can do what you want."

Never heard from them again. If they hadn't asked me, I'd have trespassed them. If they wanted to negotiate, I'd have been open to that too.

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Interesting that you say people should grow their own food yet want to prevent them from having the means to readily do so like this. It's sad really and kinda evil.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing prevents them from having the means to grow their own food. The trick is being able to do it sustainably for a long period of time.

My house sits on 0.16 acres, 6,970sqft. I could turn that land over to growing food. But the problem is, growing food is a full time job and if I spend all my time growing food for my wife and myself, I'm not making money to pay the mortgage, and soon I have nothing.

I could pay someone else to grow my food, they aren't going to do it for free, but if I'm going to do that, I may as well keep my property as it is (not much you can grow on 0.16 acres) and just buy my food at a store.

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go and plant your crops on someone else's land and see how you go.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

There are such things as community gardens, but there are also rules for said gardens.