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Since Brave is apparently absolutely terrible, is Vivaldi any better IF YOU CAN'T USE FIREFOX*? (lemm.ee)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by AeroLemming@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I daily drive Firefox, but more and more websites are starting to break without Chromium, so I still have to occasionally switch to get something working. I was using Ungoogled Chromium until I realized that there was no easy way to update it when that pixel-stealing exploit came out a while back.

To be clear, I'm not talking about stock "no settings changed" Vivaldi. With that requirement, even Firefox could be called invasive! What I want to know is if Vivaldi is relatively safe to use with all the telemetry and stuff disabled in the settings and using any necessary extensions.

Thanks!

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[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Vivaldi is decent IMO but there are some telemetry some might find distracting. BTW, are you using Windows? What do you mean there's no easy way to update Ungoogled Chromium?

[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, Windows unfortunately. You have to completely reinstall it every time. Unless you constantly check for updates, you'll be behind on security.

[–] Tibert@jlai.lu 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Then maybe I can make you discover a very nice tool : Winget or chocolatey whichever you want to use. They both can be used in cli.

However, I personally like the WingetUI software. Nice looking and supports winget, chocolatey, scoop and other. It also automatically checks for updates. It can either give you a notification, or maybe even auto update. Tho I'm not sure if it would solve your complete reinstall each time.

To install wingetUI : Search for powershel > open without administrator privilege > type "winget install wingetui" > enter. Follow and read.

Once installed you ca launch it and choose the sources (I recommend selecting winget and chocolatey at least, I like winget better than chocolatey as version numbers are closer to the real one). it also auto updates on launch.

And to install it, just search for it :

You can also install though winget or chocolatey without wingetui, but you'll have to update manually through the cli.

[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Wow, awesome! I'll have to look into it when I have a chance.

[–] Fjor@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Are you sure about the telemetry? Just watched an interview between the CEO and Techlore. And the CEO said that there is strictly no telemetrics..

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

did you expect the company's CEO to say that they spy on you?

[–] Fjor@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

If you've followed the community and the company you get the feel that they're very open, honest and authentic. I've wag he'd multiple interviews and oloowed their CEO for a while, genuinely a guy who wants to make a good and honest browser. Compared to Brave this wins me atleast over. But each to their own.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The one I know about1 is the data being sent every 24 hours with a unique ID that they use to count active users. I'm not sure, I mostly do trust they won't do anything weird with this and use Vivaldi sometimes, I guess it's up to you to decide if you want to continue using.

[–] Fjor@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

ah yeah I believe he said that this was the only thing being sent as they did need to know how many people use their browser. But even this, he said was done with a simple ping request, nothing more.