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[โ€“] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (16 children)

How do disabled people who can't drive get their groceries?

About 2 seconds of critical thinking leads you to this magical solution called "someone helps them" in both cases.

[โ€“] PvtGetSum@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not like super pro car or anything but your argument in my experience doesn't really hold up. I work at a farm and we have a lot of elderly folks come in and shop by themselves. They drive themselves and shop themselves but I doubt they could do that with a walker and if they didn't have a car I doubt they'd be finding a different way to come out here.

[โ€“] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Rural life is a whole different beast from urban. I won't ever make the argument that rural living people shouldn't have cars. So yeah, plus one for that argument.

[โ€“] PvtGetSum@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rural life definitely, but I'm in suburbia hahaha. I just can't imagine public transportation being able to replace what a car can do for elderly people

[โ€“] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If the individual is so bad off they can't manage to get on a (more robust than we currently have) form of public transit, I really question if they should be driving. The simple fact of life is that at a certain point, maintaining complete independence isn't a reality. This isn't a bad thing, we should be moving towards embracing building the systems we need for people to get help at that stage of life.

[โ€“] PvtGetSum@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

These people have no problem driving or taking care of themselves, I'm sure plenty shouldn't be driving, but doing something like shopping and then walking your groceries back home simply isn't an option for a lot of people even if public transportation was more robust. Sure, past a certain point everyone loses independence, but there are plenty that don't need to that you are advocating should

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