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When people are way too smug about their wrong answer.

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[–] charlytune@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I used to lurk on r/AskRussia, and in the run up to the invasion most of the Russians there (who may or may not be representative of Russians in general, I dunno) were confidently saying that there was no way Russia was going to invade Ukraine, it was unthinkable they'd do that to their brothers and neighbours, and it was just Western propaganda. When the invasion happened they were in complete shock, you could tell that many of them felt completely ashamed of their government, at the lies, and that they'd believed them.

[–] uint32@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

As an ethnic russian living in Germany this was exactly the way I felt. But afaik this sadly does not reflect the general russian population. I think people have always less problems to accept more lies than to accept that they have been fooled.

[–] ICE_WALRUS@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We all need to remember online spaces like reddit generally lean younger and more liberal. We never really get a holistic view of any situation. Just as people on reddit would say "we didn't want trump" and the response was "clearly over half of you did" from europeans, this is another example of how we have to realize we are in our own little bubble in these online communities.

[–] spamfajitas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's somewhat debatable, though, considering Trump won by electoral votes but lost the popular vote by about 2%. The percentage of votes cast by eligible voters was also only something like 57-60%, so it's more like 27.5% of eligible voters directly voted for Trump (if I calculated that correctly).

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

While I agree, that is still a shitton of people who voted for an orangutan.

[–] threegnomes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

just wanted to point out trump lost the popular vote

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

However, most Americans worship the document that allows the loser of the popular vote to win the election regardless as if it was a holy writ.

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I haven't actually asked everyone, but I'm pretty sure that most Americans want to change that part.