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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 126 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Its really really great that in a time where fascists gain more and more influence in several EU states, we also make it possible to massively spy on citizens :)

[–] Gamey@feddit.de 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am sure they will only use it against Pedos and Terrorists! ;)

[–] Random_German_Name@feddit.de 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Europol already said it would use it to fight „illegal migration“ and „human traffickers“ and drug dealers

A french politian demanded to use it against „Drag Queens“ and museums

An italian politian proposed to use chat control against „human traficking“ (in this case a dogwhistle for people, that rescue migrants), organ traffickers, illegal trading of weapons and drug dealers.

Some important german polititians want to expand it against antisemitism, far right extremism and child pornography

A lobbyist and another german politian want to also use it against illegally downloaded movies and music.

https://netzpolitik.org/2023/ueberwachung-politiker-fordern-ausweitung-der-chatkontrolle-auf-andere-inhalte/ (article in german)

[–] Gamey@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

Surprise surprise!

[–] Takios@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Where there's a through, the pigs will come.

And they'll screech like banshees when you mention the same or higher standards of transparency should apply to the rich and politicians themselves.

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] taladar@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, not the same people. The surveillance people are authoritarian fascists that have been in government parties a lot longer than the newer parties with similar views.

[–] KraftPunk@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Facism is not the same thing as wanting mass surveillance. Or is your definition fascist = bad?

[–] taladar@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Well, mostly I was thinking of the extreme nationalist views that most of these kinds of politicians showed in the past when they e.g. created intelligence agencies that completely ignored any international agreements, basic rights,... to ensure the supremacy of their own nation and their influence within it.

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Well, I meant that they all belong to the same group, fascists.