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The headphones: Probably zero.
The phone: Definitely possible, if you take care of it and are fine with not having the latest and greatest.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8.
Also as long as they can get a battery replacement, it should go the distance. I would source them now, rather than in a few years when they may be hard to find.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S5. (with 3 more replacement batteries in the desk draw)
Eh, charging twice a day isn't such a hassle. As long as the phone isn't losing significant charge when its in sleep mode, it's still a good daily driver.
Sent from my Samsung S3 mini (w LineageOS)
Ack I loved my s3 mini. Are you really still using one??
Which Android version do you have?
Lineage 18, which I think is Android 11
Sounds great until you get that battery out and realize it's dead because it was slowly discharging over the years and has gone below the recovery level.
Although not having security updates on your phone is a good enough reason for me to upgrade a phone. I recently used a ROG Phone II for four years before switching to a Fold5 to get a better software update policy. I simply didn't have the time anymore to fiddle with all my apps and fighting SafetyNet to use my banking apps because I used a custom ROM to keep my device updated.
It's kind of fucked that we just accept that as an argument though isn't it? Your desktop PC goes "out of support" when something physically requires hardware features or performance that isn't present on the chip. Up until windows 11, you could essentially put a fully up to date and secure windows 10 on a 15 year old computer if it was beefy enough.
Now we put up with "my manufacturer doesn't want to give me drivers for the device I bought but clearly don't actually own, so it's reasonable to pony up another $800 in 3 years to buy something new.
Android in the like 1.0 days installed and managed itself like a desktop is that could be installed on anything you could feed it drivers to. Why we as a society put up with anything less is beyond me.
The thing about security updates:
Sure, ditching your phone when it doesn't get any more updates is the safest thing, but I can't bring myself to do it for environmental reasons.
My phone runs Android 6, which currently has a 1% market share.
Who designs and deploys new malware that can only affect 1% of devices, most of which are probably secondary phones that only connect via Wifi behind a NAT by now? I'm not too worried about that.
sent from my Samsung Galaxy J5
There are many retroactive exploits in media renderers and web renderers that get fixed in newer security updates but are exploitable on every old version including Android 6. NAT doesn't save you against that.
Malware that can hit Android 6 can probably also hit Android 7, 8, and 9. Obviously how you use the device makes a difference, but the malware is still being made and you have to be careful.
I still have my S8 sitting a drawer. That phone was the first phone to jump to modern smartphones imo. The form factor is still the standard today and likely won't go away.
I dusted off my old iPhone 6s recently and did some quick plays of Badlands and Infinity Blade II... I'm amazed at how fast the phone is yet, even when the battery is thrash (it was never stellar) I will keep it as a backup device in case my main one fails.