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[โ€“] Bondrewd@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In 2-3 years the phone scene might radically change with the EU law. You might not even want to use this till 2030.

[โ€“] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

๐Ÿ™„ I'm sure having a removable battery is going to make me want to spend $700 on a wasteful new phone and definitely not spend $90 to have the current one replaced.

[โ€“] n00b001@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe Google knows what's coming and they want everyone to buy and keep a lot of the last 'optional privacy' phone before EU laws shut down future phones.

[โ€“] random65837@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EU bullshit only effects the EU, the rest of the planet doesnt have to give a shit. Everybody that wants privacy, has as much as we can get, now. The EU laws, aside from Google ignoring them at will wont change much. It cute that you beleive otherwise, especially given the EUs last attempt to totally undermine your privscy with their hatred of encryption and love of backdoors made just for them, but sure, THEY will be the ones to protect you....LOL. The EU gov't is literally Google, all about security and privacy, it just doesnt apply to them.

[โ€“] n00b001@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I partially agree with you.

There's been some regulations by the EU that I strongly disagree with. (weakening encryption)

There's also some regulations I strongly agree with (forcing apple (and others) to adopt usb c, GDPR, opt in to marketing and tracking, right to be forgotten)

I can see why you might think that EU regulations only apply to the EU, but where changes are significant enough for a manufacturer, they might not create multiple hardware and software setups in different markets (see usbc in iphones). There's also knock on effects in other markets (califorinia, Brazil, india, all have their own version of GDPR)

I feel like I've got you wound up, that wasn't my intent! I was trying to be tongue in cheek. I do believe in regulation though, so maybe that's where we disagree. Sorry ol' chap!

[โ€“] random65837@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Agreed, although the EU (may) have sped up USB C adoption for the phones, clearly Apple was doing that either way, the writing was on the wall with their other things going that way in prior years along with them always trying to make all their shit use the same stuff.

I'm all for the privacy aspect, when its not undone for themselves, and have all those same benefits as my states privscy laws do all the same stuff, a handful of US states do as well with more being passed every year. Everybody outside the US for some reason only thinks CA has those laws, not the case, but CA is very vocal about it.

Not riled up at all, bit it just gets tiring that while EU people on one end seem to be aware of all the privacy violations happening, then pretend that the GDPR is some holy doctrine that saves them from it all, anybody with an IQ above room temperature knows that's now how it works. Laws give a process for punishment after the fact, they rarely stop anything from happening. No shortage of companies figure out fines from stuff like that as a cost of doing business. We need them, but once you're now "safe" because of them, thats whem you've left reality. If laws worked that way we wouldn't need police or prisons, because there'd be no crime.

[โ€“] n00b001@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Just an FYI, I'm not an "EU person"

I'm a senior leader in a tech organisation. My teams and I frequently need to implement solutions that are compliant with market specific regulations (which have global reach), so I am some what familiar with them.

The EU is broadly doing a good job in my opinion, the US has room for improvement!