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XMPP or SimpleX. It's easy to block signal, given they require a phone number and the servers are centralized. But it's quite hard, potentially impossible, to block the federated XMPP network or the decentralized relay structure of SimpleX
You need to add encryption on top with OTR plugins or equivalent
Or use Matrix where it's on by default
i would argue that matrix is not decentralized enough (almost everybody is on matrix.org)
also all popular XMPP clients (conversations, gajim etc.) supports OMEMO and OpenPGP/PGP out of the box
Also Matrix servers are way more resource-intensive than XMPP ones. Synapse one is probably not even possible to run on my low-spec VPS, idk about Dendrite or Conduit. And from what I've heard, the server is harder to manage.
thats actualy one of the reasons i stopped using matrix - synapse kept crashing my server lol
but i should also mention that XMPP servers have less documentation/tutorials, i spent an entire week just to get prosody to work as i wanted it to
In my experience prosody is pretty easy to set up, but there’s also Snikket now which is built on prosody and hopefully makes setup even easier (but I haven’t used it).
Use a good XMPP client like dino/siskin/conversations and OMEMO just works. XMPP client OMEMO support status.
You can't argue "not all XMPP clients support e2ee" without arguing the same for matrix -- not all matrix clients support e2ee.