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Question came about from watching this random standup yt video

The Government Is Lying to You - Ron Funches

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b6NmjK2pgiQ

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[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe not the best news source but I don't have all day: https://theintercept.com/2015/08/03/17-years-reporter-exposed-echelon-finds-vindication-snowden-archive/

When I was a budding IT guy, the conspiracy theory that the five eyes nations were spying on each other and giving the intelligence to each other to get around rules prohibiting domestic spying was largely regarded as a paranoid conspiracy theory.

Network engineers that worked in internet backbone connectivity said there was no other really viable explanation for some of the patterns that were seeing and I believed these people after looking over some things they posted.

Well, eventually they were vindicted and the truth came out.

Ever since then, I've been a little slower to dismiss conspiracy theories.

Do I think JFK jr is coming back to lead The Storm, reinstate Trump, and finally put an end up the adrenochrome illuminati? No. But I'm a little more open minded than I used to be.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think it’s important to filter between plausible but unlikely and implausible. Are a group of spy agencies sharing information to bypass prohibition on spying on their citizens? Possibly yes.

Could a famous person who died 30 years ago come back to reinstate the extremely controversial former president of the United States because he clearly had to have won? No. Faking your death is really hard when everything goes perfectly. He doesn’t have the authority to do Jack shit. He wasn’t even a president. MLK isn’t going to come back to life and reinstate Barack Obama either.

What about the moon landing being fake? No. The Soviets had every reason to dispute the apollo 11 landing and all of the technology to verify or refute it, they verified it. Additionally mirrors were left and amateur astronomers can verify for themselves. Also astronomers aren’t spies, nasa is bad at keeping secrets.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is pretty much how I think about things.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah it’s how you stay open minded imo. And as a rule when a conspiracy starts blaming the Jews I discount it. It’s one thing to say Netanyahu or Kissinger did a conspiracy, but Moe down the street had nothing to do with it. People and organizations conspire, races religions etc don’t