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Sowing confusion to deflect blame is Tel Aviv's usual propaganda strategy.

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Are you trying to suggest that Hamas were some how justified

I can't speak for the person you were responding to... but yes - Hamas (and every other organisation Palestinians choose to support) has every goddamn right to fight Israel in whatever way that works. And no... I am in no way suggesting that - I'm stating it outright.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Advocating for the slaughtering of innocent civilians is disgusting.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Israel has been doing tons of that since 1949 - where were you and the rest of the pearl-clutchers all this time?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not advocating for the slaughtering of innocent civilians, because I'm not a monster.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And offering nothing but slap-on-the-wrist apologetics for Israel's decades-old genocide while demonising Palestinians when they fight back makes you (somehow) less of a monster?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This you?

Not advocating for the slaughtering of innocent civilians

[–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sure is, good job!

What about it?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you admit to glossing over Israel's decades-long genocide?

That's remarkably honest for a liberal.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you admit to glossing over Israel's decades-long genocide?

Nope, I admit to saying that advocating for the slaughtering of innocent civilians is disgusting.

If you think those 2 things are the same, then you might have brain damage.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If you think those 2 things are the same, then you might have brain damage.

Riiiight... those of us who know better calling attention to the fact that you libs only began worrying about the "slaughtering of innocent civilians" as soon as Israel was handed a miniscule taste of it's own medicine are doing so because... "brain damage".

Riiiight.

Here. This wasn't written for you - it was written to satirize you.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's funny, because you have to invent those things about me, while I can link to where you actively advocated for the slaughtering of innocent civilians.

I guess that's the best someone with your level of brain damage can do, though. So sad.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

It’s funny,

No, there's nothing funny about people minimising Israel's 80-year genocide because "Hamas bad".

And you can't even claim "brain damage" as an excuse.

[–] therealrjp@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t see here where anyone is trying to justify Israel. They’re wrong. So are Hamas. It’s that simple.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

I don’t see here where anyone is trying to justify Israel

Here... you dropped some of your pro-Israel "both-side-ism" tropes - let me point it out for you.

Advocating for the slaughtering of innocent civilians is disgusting.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't support Israel though?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did you reply to the wrong person?

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -4 points 11 months ago

When you are trying to accuse someone of supporting the slaughtering civilians, and they aren't supporting Israel in this particular conflict, then by definition they aren't supporting the slaughtering of innocent civilians.

On the other hand, if you are criticizing Hamas for attacking valid Israeli targets in their fight for freedom, you are implicitly supporting the slaughter of civilians. i.e. you support the fact that Israel regularly bombs hospitals and evacuation routes.

[–] therealrjp@lemm.ee -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You’re entitled to your opinion. I do wonder if it would change if it was your mum or brother or some other loved one that gets killed while minding their own business but whatever. In your mind, Hamas would be justified for it.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

I do wonder if it would change if it was your mum or brother or some other loved one that gets killed while minding their own business

I am perfectly capable of understanding the point of view of a person who has had their entire family and/or community murdered, imprisoned or forced to flee - but having that happen to one over and over again for almost 80 years while privileged scum runs interference for the perpetrators because it's simply more convenient to swallow the well-funded propaganda... that stretches the limits of even my imagination.