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Safe Streets Rebel's protest comes after automatic vehicles were blamed for incidents including crashing into a bus and running over a dog. City officials in June said...

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[-] GFGJewbacca@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I think the view behind the anti-car movement is that there shouldn't be cars. Period. Doesn't matter what income bracket. Gas powered cars create huge amounts of pollution, all cars generate lots of waste and are in general very inefficient modes of transportation.

I believe in the end it advocates for busses and trains (above and below ground)as public transit. I think there's also a belief that infrastructure is supposed to be updated to support this. Busses get their lane, while most of a street is for people moving under their own power, be it walking, cycling or using a wheelchair.

[-] nivenkos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I live in one of the cities with the "best" public transport in the world. But it's impossible for one of my friends to get to her night shift outside the city by public transport. It's like a train for 40 minutes, and then an infrequent bus and then walking - all as a lone woman at night.

Or a 30 minute drive... in the safety of your own car.

I don't see how public transport could ever be "improved" to solve that, it becomes increasingly expensive to cover every destination.

Nevermind the fact that most of the anti-car people are the same ones pushing for rehabilitative "justice", defunding the police and weak sentencing - that's not making walking at night and public transport any safer!

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Personally, I find I feel much less safe when there are more and more well-armed cops out on the street than when there aren't, in regards to that last point

[-] kklusz@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Different people feel differently about the safety of cops. You might live in a city that’s safe for women walking alone at night, but not everyone does.

[-] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Heavily armed cops plowing through red lights and crosswalks in their cars, at that.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 2 points 11 months ago

It's not only the transportation means, it's also the city design which is biased by the car culture. If your friend's only reasonable solution is a 30-min driver, and she didn't intentionally decide to live in some isolated place, then the city design is a failure.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 11 months ago

I think the view behind the anti-car movement is that there shouldn’t be cars. Period.

I don't think so. Fuck-car people are rather against the omnipresence of private cars and how cities prioritize them instead of greener means of transportation, which creates mortal danger, pollution, wasted energy, wasted materials and wasted space. But I don't think they would mind the occasional car for reasonable usage like disabled people, craftsmen, public services etc.

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