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Safe Streets Rebel's protest comes after automatic vehicles were blamed for incidents including crashing into a bus and running over a dog. City officials in June said...

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[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The problem is no one will use them. Busses are full of homeless people and people that NEED to use them than they want to. I was a bus driver for many years. They don't stop where everyone wants to go and it's a necessity to most instead of an integrated way of life. The entire American culture would need to change.

[-] fross@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

This is not the case in places outside the US.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Absolutely! I drove bus in the city in question. So I thought I would add my anecdote.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Yeah. But US culture needs to change anyways.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

For sure. However do you change something that is mostly government subsidized and everyone that manages the systems are happy with the operations?

[-] Spzi@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

everyone that manages the systems are happy with the operations?

Is that the case? I suppose most car drivers are not happy with sitting in traffic jams. Better public transport would help.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They are happy with their paychecks and lives. Yes.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Make them as unhappy as you.

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

I don't know how it is in the US, but i can tell you that public transit is pretty good here in my city. A self-driving taxi would still be the ideal experience for sure, but taking a bus isn't that much worse, and it's definitely better than driving myself.

[-] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The entire American culture needs to change.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I totally agree. I am not sure how that will happen.

[-] xSPYXEx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That literally just proves that we do in fact need more busses. More vehicles would allow for a wider coverage with more frequent and well organized stops.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I like your idea, but implementing it is a bigger issue than you may realize. The transit systems in San Francisco are based on counties. Therefore it is a completely different governing body for each way out of the city proper.

But coverage does not change the usage. That is several millions if not billions to reroute a busline to go to a different area. If only 10 people get on every two hours then another bus in a more populated area is more financially sound. We can sit and say more buses are the answer, but people being willing to get on to the bus is a part of the equation. I don't see how you are going to eliminate 2 extra hours out of everyone's commute and make them buy into it.

[-] Spzi@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Busses are full of homeless people and people that NEED to use them than they want to.

I heard this is the case in the United States. In Europe, as far as I can tell, it's more common that people from all backgrounds take public transit, including 'higher' class people. Of course exceptions and reasons exist.

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