this post was submitted on 02 Nov 2023
178 points (98.9% liked)

Asklemmy

43950 readers
726 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A friend is someone who reciprocates tolerable presence.

You don't know friends would make you happy, but they can help you pass the time in less pain.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I sure hope friends are better than just tolerable.

Let's go with enjoyable. Tolerable is like the bare minimum for how to behave around other people. Friends are more than the bare minimum.

A friend is someone who reciprocates enjoyable presence.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

We're establishing a baseline minimum here.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I thought about that too. Though it hadn't made me wonder less. I have people I thought to myself may be considered my friends, but who I've discovered have occasional demons that make them unenjoyable to be around. To use an example even though I was never particular close to them, one came back from the military and it shows.

Though also this isn't to say I disagree with whether they should be considered friends, I mentioned once that the point of being friendship is prioritization. Just the other side of things doesn't sit well either.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

who reciprocates tolerable presence.

I mean, my circumstances do make me keep my friends close and my enemies closer. Are my enemies secretly my friends?

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 4 points 1 year ago

No, you can be close with someone but not tolerate their presence. I've had this manifest as high maintenance friends that I knew a lot about and spent a lot of time with, but were ultimately draining to be around and asked too much of me to be sustainable.