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It was popularized and took it's current form in the US. Flatbread with toppings was eaten all across the Mediterranean, so isn't Italian as such.
Flatbed with cheese and tomatoes on pizza bread... Yep, that's basically pizza. You can say Italian Americans evolved the dish and created popular varieties, but the basics come from Naples. Flatbed with toppings was eaten even in Achaemenid Persia, so I'm not talking about just that, but about a dish called "pizza" with cheese and tomatoes, and that clearly comes from Italy.
Have you not read the article? Cheese and all types of fruit/meats were used on the flatbread. Trukish Pide is basically the same thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%B0%C3%A7li_Pide
The thing with the invention of tradition is that it's orgiginality is only established after the popularity. American GI's find out that pizza is not the thing in Italy it was back in the states: people go looking and find that someone from Napoli wrote something about flatbread with cheese and tomato. Now it is said to be an Italian classic.
Sam thing happened in Scotland with the Kilts and tartan. That wasn't a thing in Scotland untill an English textile salesmen started selling fabrics to scottish nobility in the 19'th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invented_tradition