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Then why are you replying? Why do you even need to deflect? I didn't comment for you, I already explained my reason was to add a second take where I felt the first one was half-assed, for others to read.
My goal isn't to bother you, not even now, meanwhile you yourself keep replying with nothing but vitriol. Why can't you just... Stop? Why did you start in the first place? My comment was perfectly complementary to yours, but you chose to take offence and be rude about it.
Like I said a bit more harshly already, if you don't have anything to say, why are you talking?
And why are you mad at me for saying it, when I did have something to say? You keep telling me to grow up and touch grass, but you're the one who can't keep from strawmanning.
Since you admit to an attention span insufficient for more than a sentence, I'll start splitting up what I have to say into bite-size chunks.
You've all but admitted you're here out of spite, with no interest in actually showing you have ground to stand on. I'm keeping this going because that makes the only way out for you to let go of this emotional bullshit. To pull yourself together enough to choose to stop when you're acting like an ass.
It's rare, to see someone admit so openly they are a shit person.
To kill time by nonchalantly wasting someone else's, is not a good look.
One of us is trying to hold up a mirror for the other. The other just admitted they take pleasure in indulging their worst impulses.
I have a point to prove, now. That you won't be able to stop this until you learn to let go of spiting someone.
Am I obsessive about proving that point? A little. Am I as entertained as you are? For now.
Uno reverse card. Every form of "why are you still here"-argument applies to yourself as well.
Whoa! Three paragraphs!
You seem to be under the impression you did nothing to get us down here:
Then block me. Or you know, don't even start.
I'm literally not, I was engaging in perfectly rational discussion, only you got weird.
Again, if this is the problem, walk away.
I'm not keeping score, but you've not exactly been levelheaded.
Another thing you don't seem to have noticed is that I'm the one helping you. Your very first reply to me was... unreasonable, so I started off simply defending what I had to say. You just got mean from there, never actually retorting but going straight for the hurt, rather than a discussion... So I switched gear and got down in the mud with you while trying to fit in just enough reason to get you to take a look at your own atrocious behaviour.
And you have the gall to offer to help me?
Now that is rich! Whatever let's you ride out of here, still up on that high-horse, I guess.
Why would I want to let go? It's still fun!
I found a guy who tells me to "touch grass" while actively devolving the interaction. Someone who says "grow up" while openly admitting they aren't themselves engaging in good faith.
I have to hold up a mirror! Forcing this type of person take a real look at themselves is cathartic as fuck! And its not even schadenfreude, invariably the person comes out the other side more introspective and a better person, whether they admit so or not.
You are improving. You've found a new way to cope with me. Unfortunately that doesn't excuse your earlier behavior.
No thanks on the help, but an apology will do. If you scoff at that, consider that I already made a list of things worth apologizing for.
I've talked down religious nuts online over the span of weeks. Getting you to admit you allowed an emotional reaction to negatively affect how you acted towards another person will be nothing at all.
This happened because I made a perfectly reasonable addition to what you had to say, and that offended you. Then when I defended my words with irrefutable logic... The list above.
It didn't need to, you could have handled the whole thing much better. All I want, and why I'm still here, is to make you see that. If you think my willingness to do something about rude people is a mental issue, I don't know what to tell you. If it is, I don't want it fixed.
And the only reason I split my replies is to make a counterpoint against your utterly idiotic "I only read the first sentence" bullshit.
Well then, I'll just give you more than one "first sentence". Maybe then I'll get through and we can get this crap over with.
The only reason someone would openly admit to refusing to read the words of another while actively provoking more, is to be mean.
The solution is simple, either end the matter properly, or engage in good faith.
Instead you tried to use words as a weapon of pain, not logic. You should be ashamed.
You keep saying I want you to engage in good faith, I do. And you reply you don't want to engage.
That's fine. Not engaging at all is perfectly valid.
The issue here, and the one I'm trying to get you to see, is that you keep picking the third option:
To try and get at me.
Now, if I couldn't take that, I should walk away. But I can, so the far more productive option is have you learn to choose to stop, or at least start you on your way. Then, maybe someone who can't take it, won't have to.
Of course people are mean sometimes! You think I'm vehement because my skin is thin, but I can do this precisely because it isn't. I can engage with people who would drive others to kill themselves.
If my hobby of trying to kill trolls with kindness wherever I find them gets to even a fraction of them... Why stop?
What is there to see eye to eye on? Are you trying to claim that your behavior was perfectly reasonable, and not worth improving? It doesn't matter what we were arguing about, the moment you turned mean, my goal became to make you see that you should do better.
Rejecting truth because it was spoken by a peasant and not a King, isn't wisdom.
My core message here is that you turned mean when you didn't have to, can you honestly claim I'm wrong?
Then again, mentally diagnosing someone over Lemmy isn't something an honest person would do... I can only assume that you've come to equate persistence with crazy.
And back to strawmans, too, you were able to maintain the facade of kindness for what... Three comments?
You're literally proving me right. Doubling down on the behaviour I'm trying to get you to acknowledge and improve isn't exactly making me look like the crazy one.
Now your offer to help just looks like a feint, a pretend reaction in the most extreme way you could think of, in order to faze me.
Get better material, the "lol ur wasting time" argument can literally be defeated with an uno reverse card.
Again, if you don't have something with logical value to say, shut the fuck up.
I'm trying to say something. Now either stop pretending to ignore me and do it for real, or start reading.
This isn't a argument, you started shit-slinging, not realizing I'm just as good at that as I am rational discussion.