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[–] darq@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bet a lot of Nazis are minding their own business, just being a racist in a corner somewhere. Maybe hiding from the leftists who think they have the balls to punch somebody.

Sounds like it's working then =)

[–] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But you're being intolerant of someone doing nothing in a corner. So you're violating the social contract, so you should be excluded.

[–] darq@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But you’re being intolerant of someone doing nothing in a corner. So you’re violating the social contract, so you should be excluded.

Except no, that's not true.

If the Nazi is keeping their abhorrent views to themselves in the corner, because they're scared to voice them for fear of the repercussions, then I wouldn't even know, now would I? The repercussions worked.

Come on bud, it's your own hypothetical, try to keep it straight.

[–] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok 'Bud'. The fact that there are repercussions is what is being discussed. The Nazis intentions aren't relevant. Maybe he is in the corner to plan the 23rd Reich. But if you're out to harm someone just for sitting in a corner minding their own business, that is a violation of the contract outlined above.

[–] darq@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... I think you're mistaking what I'm saying, or hallucinating something I haven't said.

Nowhere have I said I'm out to harm someone minding their own business. In fact, I've said basically the opposite.

The fact that they are sitting in the corner keeping their abhorrent beliefs to themselves is a good thing. Because the consequences for trying to act on them or spread them are working.

In other words... As long as they do keep that to themselves, then there are no consequences for them. It's only if they act on those beliefs or try to spread them, do people act in return.

[–] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because my original point wasn't replying to you

"Do you actively encourage harm to others minding their own fucking business."

The implication being that breaks the social contract.

You're all actively encouraging people to punch Nazis.

You're all breaking the social contract.

Paradox of Intolerance.

[–] darq@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because my original point wasn’t replying to you

Yet you're still throwing around broad accusations.

You’re all actively encouraging people to punch Nazis.

If they act like Nazis.

Don't try and massage what people are saying to mean something they haven't said.

[–] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol so don't throw broad accusations, but actually yeah you would punch a Nazi.

I'm going to reply to the position staked by the person I replied to, not the random hypothetical leftist who's going to pile on after the fact. Not that it matters as you all broadly think the same things. And I'm not massaging, it's the logical holes in what they've said. The whole point of this topic is it's not clear where the line is, so people being lazy about their opinions makes them open to criticism.

[–] darq@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

you would punch a Nazi.

If they were openly acting like a Nazi. As in, if they aren't quietly minding their own business. Because if they were, I wouldn't even know.

Like are you thick? Are you incapable of finishing the sentence? This is a remarkably simple thing to understand and I'm genuinely shocked that you can't seem to get your head around it. I cannot fathom how stupid a person would actually have to be to not be able to understand that very simple statement.